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Title: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: kleenax on January 28, 2013, 05:27:59 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230919883462

Original working lock with matching serial numbered key.
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: teka-bb on January 29, 2013, 05:46:28 PM

Hi Ray,

The link is 'dead'...
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: kleenax on January 29, 2013, 07:02:15 PM
Quote from: teka-bb on January 29, 2013, 05:46:28 PM

Hi Ray,

The link is 'dead'...
Yea, eBay pulled my auction because they said that I was "Promoting or encouraging illegal activity". Still fighting with them on it!
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: Sargeguy on January 29, 2013, 07:03:59 PM
They finally caught on to you after all these years!!!
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: QuietStove on February 03, 2013, 01:45:30 PM
Ray,

eBay probably did not understand the lock is for an antique phone and thought it could be use to subvert modern payphones.   Did the listing mention the lock and key are for antique payphones that are not in service anymore? 

QuietStove
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: kleenax on February 03, 2013, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: quietstove on February 03, 2013, 01:45:30 PM
Ray,

eBay probably did not understand the lock is for an antique phone and thought it could be use to subvert modern payphones.   Did the listing mention the lock and key are for antique payphones that are not in service anymore? 

QuietStove

I have been around and around with those idiots for the past 3 days about this. There is some nitwit there that although I mention nothing whatsoever about a "T-KEY", he/she insists that that is what I listed and it is therefore banned. Won't listen to reason, won't read over the auction with me and explain to me WHY he thinks that what it is, won't LOOK at a (present) eBay listing FOR A REAL T-KEY (that they are allowing to run); just insists that my auction is illegal and therefore banned.

I would think it's my ex-wife running that department if I didn't know better!   >:(
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: Dennis Markham on February 03, 2013, 01:59:48 PM
Quote from: kleenax on February 03, 2013, 01:53:06 PM
I would think it's my ex-wife running that department if I didn't know better!   >:(

I don't know your ex-wife, but she probably would want your phone to run.  That way she could share in the proceeds. :)

Isn't there someone over that person's head with whom to plead your case??
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: MagicMo on February 03, 2013, 02:19:36 PM
Hey Ray,
I cannot comment on the lock that your ex wife is sabotaging, but I can say marriage really is a great thing (but I wouldn't recommend it to single people).
For instance, every time I go and think I found Mr. Right, my husband has to go and scare him away!        Ba Dum Tsh!
Mo
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: kleenax on February 03, 2013, 02:24:17 PM
Quote from: MagicMo on February 03, 2013, 02:19:36 PM
Hey Ray,
I cannot comment on the lock that your ex wife is sabotaging, but I can say marriage really is a great thing (but I wouldn't recommend it to single people).
For instance, every time I go and think I found Mr. Right, my husband has to go and scare him away!        Ba Dum Tsh!
Mo

Well, there ya go  :D
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: Sargeguy on February 03, 2013, 04:58:24 PM
This reminds me of when I was selling some extra sets of 1:35 scale and 1:48 scale water slide decals for plastic model kits and my auctions for the WwIi German sets got pulled because I was "promoting Nazism".
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: QuietStove on February 03, 2013, 07:50:45 PM
Quote from: kleenax on February 03, 2013, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: quietstove on February 03, 2013, 01:45:30 PM
Ray,

eBay probably did not understand the lock is for an antique phone and thought it could be use to subvert modern payphones.   Did the listing mention the lock and key are for antique payphones that are not in service anymore? 

QuietStove

I have been around and around with those idiots for the past 3 days about this. There is some nitwit there that although I mention nothing whatsoever about a "T-KEY", he/she insists that that is what I listed and it is therefore banned. Won't listen to reason, won't read over the auction with me and explain to me WHY he thinks that what it is, won't LOOK at a (present) eBay listing FOR A REAL T-KEY (that they are allowing to run); just insists that my auction is illegal and therefore banned.

I would think it's my ex-wife running that department if I didn't know better!   >:(

You are assuming the person receiving your message has the capability to read and comprehend the english language.
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: kleenax on February 04, 2013, 09:24:47 AM

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You are assuming the person receiving your message has the capability to read and comprehend the english language.

Ironically yes, that was MOST infuriating! The guy speaking to me sounded middle-eastern, and had a very condescending tone as he spoke with me. It was like he was reading from a script (probably was), and had NO intention whatsoever of listening to me or doing anything about the situation (or couldn't).
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: QuietStove on February 04, 2013, 12:30:54 PM
Quote from: kleenax on February 04, 2013, 09:24:47 AM

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You are assuming the person receiving your message has the capability to read and comprehend the english language.

Ironically yes, that was MOST infuriating! The guy speaking to me sounded middle-eastern, and had a very condescending tone as he spoke with me. It was like he was reading from a script (probably was), and had NO intention whatsoever of listening to me or doing anything about the situation (or couldn't).

Language barriers can be frustrating.   Try to give another phone call.  The moment you get someone who isn't communicating to your satisfaction immediately hang up, call back, and try again.  Repeat until you  get someone who meets your expectations.   Then they hopefully will be able to write additional detail for the folks who make the decision.   Insist the previous representative is wrong and does not understand.   

If you already tried the above there isn't much else you can do.   Good luck.

Craig
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: Greg G. on February 04, 2013, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: MagicMo on February 03, 2013, 02:19:36 PM
Hey Ray,
I cannot comment on the lock that your ex wife is sabotaging, but I can say marriage really is a great thing (but I wouldn't recommend it to single people).
For instance, every time I go and think I found Mr. Right, my husband has to go and scare him away!        Ba Dum Tsh!
Mo

"A good marriage is like an interlocking neurosis, where the rocks in one person's head fill up the holes in the other's." - Anonymous
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: kleenax on February 04, 2013, 07:52:20 PM
Quote

Language barriers can be frustrating.   Try to give another phone call.  The moment you get someone who isn't communicating to your satisfaction immediately hang up, call back, and try again.  Repeat until you  get someone who meets your expectations.   Then they hopefully will be able to write additional detail for the folks who make the decision.   Insist the previous representative is wrong and does not understand.   

If you already tried the above there isn't much else you can do.   Good luck.

Craig

Been there, done that...... 3 times!
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: MagicMo on February 04, 2013, 08:22:39 PM
To tak (więc) trudne współdziałanie z językowymi barierami (przeszkoda). przypuszczam tam nie jest wiele (wielka ilość; dużo) wy możecie robić. To *stinks* na pewno!

Good luck with that.
Mo ;)
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: LarryInMichigan on February 04, 2013, 09:09:27 PM
I believe that ebay sends their support calls to the Philippines like many other companies these days.  The English of the call-takers can be difficult to understand at times, but the biggest problems are that they simply do not understand the issues involved, and most work for call center companies, not the companies with whom the caller is trying to do business.  I used to have an ETrade brokerage account.  I was not receiving the checks or debit cards that I ordered, and eventually discovered that they had apparently been sent to an old address in another state.  The outsourced support people in Manila couldn't understand why it made any difference what address was used and couldn't do anything about it anyway.  I tried in vain to explain to them that someone 1000 miles away could be withdrawing funds from my account, but the concept didn't register with them.  I quickly transferred my account to another company.

In another, more recent experience, I received a phone bill with a fraudulent charge marked as "operator assistance".  When I asked the support woman in the Philippines what sort of operator assistance I supposedly used, she explained to me that I had used an operator to call phone number "111000".  I tried to explain that there is no such valid number in this country, but she didn't understand.  She reluctantly agreed to cancel the charge, and suggested that I hire a lawyer.

Larry
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: QuietStove on February 04, 2013, 10:04:23 PM
Quote from: kleenax on February 04, 2013, 07:52:20 PM
Quote

Language barriers can be frustrating.   Try to give another phone call.  The moment you get someone who isn't communicating to your satisfaction immediately hang up, call back, and try again.  Repeat until you  get someone who meets your expectations.   Then they hopefully will be able to write additional detail for the folks who make the decision.   Insist the previous representative is wrong and does not understand.   

If you already tried the above there isn't much else you can do.   Good luck.

Craig

Been there, done that...... 3 times!

:o    Oh my, seems like you've seen this movie a few times already.
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: QuietStove on February 04, 2013, 10:08:22 PM
Quote from: MagicMo on February 04, 2013, 08:22:39 PM
To tak (więc) trudne współdziałanie z językowymi barierami (przeszkoda). przypuszczam tam nie jest wiele (wielka ilość; dużo) wy możecie robić. To *stinks* na pewno!

Good luck with that.
Mo ;)

Yup, Powodzenia z tym.    :)
Yup, good luck with that.    :)
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: DavePEI on February 05, 2013, 12:09:16 AM
Quote from: MagicMo on February 04, 2013, 08:22:39 PM
To tak (więc) trudne współdziałanie z językowymi barierami (przeszkoda). przypuszczam tam nie jest wiele (wielka ilość; dużo) wy możecie robić. To *stinks* na pewno!

Good luck with that.
Mo ;)
How about:

It's (so) difficult to interact with language barriers (barrier). I suppose there is not much (big number, a lot) you can do it. It * stinks * for sure! [Google Translate z polskiego (from Polish)]

Dave
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: kleenax on February 06, 2013, 09:00:47 PM
Well, I listed it again. Just my luck, I will be banned from eBay for doing it. Anyway, here it is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230925311561


Quote from: kleenax on January 28, 2013, 05:27:59 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230919883462

Original working lock with matching serial numbered key.
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: poplar1 on February 06, 2013, 09:52:30 PM
I'm running  into a problem getting a key made for an old Gray (the one with the plate that goes behind a wall magneto phone.) None of the locksmiths want to do it, even though it takes a key without ridges. (I had one made at Sears years ago.)
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: kleenax on February 06, 2013, 09:55:26 PM
Quote from: poplar1 on February 06, 2013, 09:52:30 PM
I'm running  into a problem getting a key made for an old Gray (the one with the plate that goes behind a wall magneto phone.) None of the locksmiths want to do it, even though it takes a key without ridges. (I had one made at Sears years ago.)
Did you see if Paul V. could do it?
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: DavePEI on February 06, 2013, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: poplar1 on February 06, 2013, 09:52:30 PM
I'm running  into a problem getting a key made for an old Gray (the one with the plate that goes behind a wall magneto phone.) None of the locksmiths want to do it, even though it takes a key without ridges. (I had one made at Sears years ago.)
Did you try Jody Haralson - he made me a Gray key...

http://payphonelockrepair.com/


Dave
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: baldopeacock on February 06, 2013, 10:07:52 PM
Quote from: MagicMo on February 03, 2013, 02:19:36 PM
Hey Ray,
I cannot comment on the lock that your ex wife is sabotaging, but I can say marriage really is a great thing (but I wouldn't recommend it to single people).
For instance, every time I go and think I found Mr. Right, my husband has to go and scare him away!        Ba Dum Tsh!
Mo

There just aren't enough women out there with stand-up comic routines and unreal stashes of old telephone stuff.    Stick around here, Mo!
Title: Re: Very Scarce 12B Payphone lock on eBay for sale
Post by: poplar1 on February 06, 2013, 10:36:29 PM
Quote from: DavePEI on February 06, 2013, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: poplar1 on February 06, 2013, 09:52:30 PM
I'm running  into a problem getting a key made for an old Gray (the one with the plate that goes behind a wall magneto phone.) None of the locksmiths want to do it, even though it takes a key without ridges. (I had one made at Sears years ago.)
Did you try Jody Haralson - he made me a Gray key...

http://payphonelockrepair.com/

Dave

I plan to send Jody all my AE 10-L locks that are missing the keys. However, sending the Gray 3,000 miles seems risky. (The first one of these I bought in 1967 from Surplus Center in Lincoln, Nebraska, for $2.99, arrived with the bottom plate broken. This was the model used with candlestick phones.)