460 Type 6 Key phone

[HowardPgh]

Does any one have any kind of info on this phone?
There appears to be none in the TCI library.  My search was based on the BSPs listed on Paul F's site.
I think the full number on the bottom 460 GC3.  The phone works, I just like to know more about it.  It just seems to be a basic 302 with a switching mechanism in it.
Is there supposed to be some sort of connector on the end of the cord? It was cut off at the strain relief,  What color were the buttons originally? One button is sluggish but the rest of them work OK when the bad one is pulled up,
Howard

[poplar1]

460=No lamps 464=With lamps.
Buttons were originally brown, then clear. (The WE "Telephone Story" chart shows white buttons in 1938; anyone seen these?)
These had spade tip ended wires. The amphenol plug found on 564s did not happen until around 1964.

If the phone is opened up, do the brass selector buttons work properly? If so, the plastic buttons may be binding in the housing.

[HowardPgh]

The brass part works fine. The button is binding in its hole.

[Russ Kirk]

Here are some comparison photos of a 302 vs. 460.   

Forgive the dust,  they are recent additions and waiting in line for resoration when I have nothing to do.

[ESalter]

The brass part works fine. The button is binding in its hole.

I had the same problem with a 460 I bought.  The plastic of the housing shrinks around the bakelite buttons.  I carefully remoed the buttons and chucked them up in my cordless drill.  While spinning them I carefully filed the outer flange of the button down until they slid in the holes nicely.  Afterwards you can't tell I did anything and all of the buttons operate flawlessly.

---Eric

[paul-f]

460=No lamps 464=With lamps.
Buttons were originally brown, then clear. (The WE "Telephone Story" chart shows white buttons in 1938; anyone seen these?)

Brown buttons -- no lamps
Clear buttons -- lamps

I suspect the buttons on the Telephone Story poster are clear.  They make them look whiter so they'd stand out.

[AE_Collector]

I never realised how much deeper the 440/444/460/464 was than a 302. The aerial shot really points that out!

Terry

[HowardPgh]

I found a BSP for this phone 460 GC.
It is in the TCI library 502-435-400.   Howard

Russ-I see that your 460 phone  cord was "neutered" also.  It is sad that the technician didn't take the time to undo the terminals.

[Babybearjs]

I have several of these phones, all in working order. amazing what the difference is when you take a 460 series and stick it next to a 560 series phone. but it complements the 300 series so well... an absolute work of art! I really love them. and they work so well! easy to wire too! only needs about 24 wires on the 464... as apposed to the 25 pair you need for the 564... just haven't been able to get a buzzer inside the case when you still want to have the bell.... where did they put it??? wound up having to use a #7 buzzer on the baseboard... frustrating when you want to keep things concealed...

[AE_Collector]

May have been a "Customer removal". Telco's told customers to just cut the cord when returning hard wired rental equipment and when these sets were still in use this was ALL rental equipment. SO, the KSU may still be out there waiting to be found!

Terry

[poplar1]

460=No lamps 464=With lamps.
Buttons were originally brown, then clear. (The WE "Telephone Story" chart shows white buttons in 1938; anyone seen these?)

Brown buttons -- no lamps
Clear buttons -- lamps

I suspect the buttons on the Telephone Story poster are clear.  They make them look whiter so they'd stand out.

Only the oldest 440s and 460s had brown buttons (listed as "black" in the BSPs). Later 440s and 460s had clear buttons even though the lamps and lamp holder were not furnished.