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Telephone Talk => Collector's Corner => My Telephone Collection => Topic started by: david@london on December 17, 2012, 07:34:50 PM

Title: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on December 17, 2012, 07:34:50 PM
GPO 706L diakon (http://www.britishtelephones.com/t706case.htm) from 1961

12-52 500 signal corps

1-59 aqua 500 c/d

kellogg 1000 redbar
Title: Re: Pictures of My Telephone's - david@london
Post by: AE_Collector on December 18, 2012, 04:20:05 PM
Looks nice. Love those two tone green GPO sets. Let's see the other 6 in your collection.

Terry
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Post by: david@london on December 23, 2012, 07:25:15 PM
thanks terry..... the two-tone green is one of my favourites.

some 'before' pics from ebay of the aqua blues .........

..... 1/59 aqua 500 c/d from harrisburg pennsylvania.

..... 1/58 aqua 500 c/d from fraser, colorado - a small town 30 miles up the road from the 'sleeper' house at genesee.






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Post by: david@london on December 26, 2012, 06:07:19 PM
5-59 WE A/B 591 moss green .............and '44 302 signal corps .
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Post by: TelePlay on December 26, 2012, 06:27:10 PM
Quote from: david@london on December 17, 2012, 07:34:50 PM12-52 signal corps WE 500 GA 51859* .................*don't know what these numbers mean, .....put them here in hopes someone will enlighten me

This may help. Scroll down to the end of the 500 sets, just before the 501s, to find the military GA 51859.

http://www.paul-f.com/we500typ.htm

PS, very nice phones and great colors on that '61 706.
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Post by: david@london on December 27, 2012, 09:47:18 AM
.........thanks for that pointer to the paul-f page.

i believe the phone comes from a usaf base in east anglia. 


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Post by: david@london on January 04, 2013, 06:20:41 PM
c/d 500 1/58 aqua.........
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Post by: david@london on January 05, 2013, 08:49:57 AM
ivory gpo 746 (1983)....

.........now in the collection of mr. bones

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Post by: david@london on February 20, 2013, 07:38:20 PM
...i put a new dial card in the kellogg redbar.
........seems to make all the difference.
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Post by: david@london on March 21, 2013, 08:09:41 AM
.........new dial card for the moss green 591 .....+ ephrata card.

(i got these from 'wordmike' who is/was on the forum...also the ae card on the redbar + the black melrose 7 card on the 500. i gave up trying to get authentic cards copied from the collectors' weekly numbercard archive. getting the right size is tricky, and even at a commercial printing shop i was given astonished and bemused looks, and no cards. i think someone who could properly print these cards onto cartridge paper to the right sizes could have a nice sideline business in the classifieds .............. !?)

Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: unbeldi on March 21, 2013, 03:01:16 PM
Quote from: david@london on March 21, 2013, 08:09:41 AM

......   i gave up trying to get authentic cards copied from the collectors' weekly numbercard archive. getting the right size is tricky, and even at a commercial printing shop i was given astonished and bemused looks, and no cards. i think someone who could properly print these cards onto cartridge paper to the right sizes could have a nice sideline business in the classifieds .............. !?)


What seems to be the problem with getting the size right?
Most image editing software these day, on OS X even the built-in image preview, has simple tools to resize and resample an image and set the proper dots-per-inch, or whatever your measurement units are.
With a couple of practices the result comes out perfect every time when printing even on cheap laser printers.  The only limitation is when the original image has low resolution, because resampling those introduces artifacts and blur, but with some effort could be cleaned up.

But... the only "authentic" cards are the original authentic cards, nothing can make a card authentic, no printer, no process, so why even try? Any laser printer these days has plenty of blackness to produce authentic looking cards, if you find a suitable card stock.

If I want to print a whole sheet of cards, I simply create a large image of the same dots/in resolution and paste the premade card image into it multiple times in rows.
I use a circular punch (less than $10 on Amazon) to cut the cards perfectly. Well, extra notches, etc. need to be done manually, sure.

Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on March 22, 2013, 01:25:33 PM
thanks for your feedback.
the main problems i've had in obtaining prints of the numbercard archive dial cards have been a) i don't have a printer + b) printing shops can't/won't get the re-sizing thing right.
the last place i went to offered me a sheet with cards sized at about 1/2 inch diameter.
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: twocvbloke on March 22, 2013, 01:33:50 PM
Get yourself to a computer shop and buy a printer!!! :D

You can get fairly decent colour Laser printers for relatively little money these days, and the quality they put out far surpasses that of most inkjets, and the toner lasts a lot longer and the cost per page is a lot lower than the ink they put into inkjets (which per gram is more valuable than gold!)... :)
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: unbeldi on March 22, 2013, 06:37:14 PM
From your picture of the SKyline dialcard I had no trouble making a replica blank dial card, actually a whole sheet of them.  Fill in the station number and print it on 'aged' card stock or use a color printer to age the background graphically.
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on March 23, 2013, 02:43:08 PM
unbeldi - that is a very well-made copy.
....... if it were printed, as you say, on card like the original below, it would look pretty much spot-on.

Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: unbeldi on March 23, 2013, 03:14:38 PM
Quote from: david@london on March 23, 2013, 02:43:08 PM
unbeldi - that is a very well-made copy.
....... if it were printed, as you say, on card like the original below, it would look pretty much spot-on.



sure would.... After I looked at it later, I think I may have set a filter just a touch too high, the lettering is perhaps just a tiny bit too thin. I didn't spend a lot of time on it.  Here is the entire sheet image in case you have a use for it.  Try taking it to a print shop perhaps to evaluate them and ask for 100% scale, they should be able to do it perfectly.  Each card is exactly 1.5 inches in diameter, the sheet has 300 dpi resolution and is 7x10 inches total size.  If I had to do this one over, I would also add a mark where the notch should be on the right side as a guide to cutting.
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: southernphoneman on March 23, 2013, 04:00:09 PM
david@london you have some beautiful 500 phones. i have posted a photo of a black 500 that i refurbished and sold on ebay.....southernphoneman.
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Post by: david@london on March 24, 2013, 10:31:30 AM
thanks, southernphoneman

hope you got a good price for yr refurbished 500.........looks v good !
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Post by: southernphoneman on March 24, 2013, 10:42:51 AM
thankyou for compliment on the phone i posted under your topic. i paid $4.99 for it and re sold it for $55.00... thankyou..... southernphoneman
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on August 27, 2013, 01:50:51 PM
yr v welcome southern phoneman !

today i got round to installing a '55 straight handset cord on my '52 black we500, replacing the '70s refurb coiled cord it had on it.

i managed to track the straight cord down a couple of months ago, after some hunting about. i've had the cord hanging up with a weight on one end, to straighten it.
the coiled cord was, i think, put on in '78 by the usaf, this being a signal corps phone.
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Post by: david@london on December 26, 2013, 01:31:35 PM
a family member of mine has just moved house and has given me a gpo 300 series she had in the garage........thank you k.
it was badly cracked when i received it, so i replaced the shell on it.

i thought it also deserved a new braided cord, a metal label and a good clean-up.
the new shell would seem to be from a 330 (http://www.britishtelephones.com/t330.htm), and the handset is a 184 (http://www.britishtelephones.com/t184.htm) ......dated 53.

1st photo is before i worked on it.
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: Doug Rose on December 26, 2013, 06:01:32 PM
David...that is one sharp looking phone. Really eloquent!! ...Doug
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Post by: Phonesrfun on December 26, 2013, 06:16:15 PM
I do believe I am going to buy a GPO phone when I get back from being away for Christmas.  An antique store in town has (or had) one that I now think I will buy.  I believe it is an earlier 232.
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Post by: twocvbloke on December 26, 2013, 07:10:49 PM
I briefly saw a bit of "Call the midwife" yesterday, where a WWII bomb went off, and they gratuitously pushed a GPO 332 off a desk (simulating the effect of shockwave from the bomb) onto the floor..... :o

Luckily being a well made phone it didn't break, but still, that poor phone... :(
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Post by: Phonesrfun on December 26, 2013, 07:12:24 PM
Would have been worse if a buzz bomb hit it. :o
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: Doug Rose on December 27, 2013, 08:47:40 AM
Quote from: Phonesrfun on December 26, 2013, 06:16:15 PM
I do believe I am going to buy a GPO phone when I get back from being away for Christmas.  An antique store in town has (or had) one that I now think I will buy.  I believe it is an earlier 232.
Bill...that is the great thing about collecting telephones, as many as you might have; there is always another that you have your eye on.  It is a great phone.....Doug
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Post by: david@london on December 27, 2013, 09:32:43 AM
doug -
thank you for yr compliment ......i agree it's a sharp phone. especially with the shark's tooth fingerstop !

bill -
the 232 is a great phone ..... lovely pyramid design. does the one you've got in mind have a bellset ? 

british telephones link (http://www.britishtelephones.com/t232.htm).
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Post by: LarryInMichigan on December 27, 2013, 09:35:23 AM
Quote from: Phonesrfun on December 26, 2013, 06:16:15 PM
I do believe I am going to buy a GPO phone when I get back from being away for Christmas.  An antique store in town has (or had) one that I now think I will buy.  I believe it is an earlier 232.

The GPO 232 is the pyramid style classic from the 1930s.  They often sell for big prices, especially if they are in good condition.  What is the price on this one?

Larry
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on February 24, 2014, 09:09:42 AM
thanks to my good friend larry, i have just received a new phone; well-packed and fast delivery - 4 days to england.
it is in very nice condition - all dates matching 1/72........and all working a-ok here in london.
this super-fast modern touchtone dialling is the business.
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Post by: Matilo Telephones on February 24, 2014, 09:33:58 AM
Congratulations with this beautiful new addition to your collection!
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Post by: Contempra on February 24, 2014, 11:49:00 AM
Nice red one to your collection David.. congrats !.
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Post by: david@london on February 24, 2014, 07:00:50 PM
arwin & denis.....thanks.

this 2500D is my 1st red phone and came with an original round 4 prong plug on the line cord.
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Post by: Matilo Telephones on February 25, 2014, 01:12:05 AM
That is a great detail, with a plug in matching color.
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Post by: WesternElectricBen on February 25, 2014, 08:44:52 AM
Very nice, I too really like the circular 4 prongs, esp. the red ones.

Ben
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Post by: david@london on February 25, 2014, 03:52:09 PM
yes the original plug is a great extra....i'm hoping to connect up the ivory junction box to a british-type line cord & keep the authentic set-up. i have a temporary cord on the phone at the moment.

nb........does anyone have any good ideas on how to clean up the marks on the dial-buttons ?

thanks.
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Post by: Matilo Telephones on February 25, 2014, 04:03:27 PM
Are these tobacco stains?
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Post by: david@london on February 25, 2014, 04:17:46 PM
.......don't think so. i thought maybe someone spilled some coffee.
i'll try the electric toothbrush i think, with a a soft old brush on it .....& a smidgeon of novus.
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Post by: LarryInMichigan on February 25, 2014, 04:24:14 PM
That tends to happen to TT keypad buttons.  I do not know why, but it is common.  Some careful polishing with plastic polish might help.

Larry

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Post by: Matilo Telephones on February 25, 2014, 04:46:08 PM
There was an execelent thread about refurbishing touch tone units the other day. I´ll look it up.
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Post by: Contempra on February 25, 2014, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: Matilo Telephones on February 25, 2014, 04:46:08 PM
There was an execelent thread about refurbishing touch tone units the other day. I´ll look it up.

When you'll find it, tell it me ;)
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: Matilo Telephones on February 25, 2014, 05:00:45 PM
Here it is:

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=10866.0
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: Contempra on February 25, 2014, 07:33:25 PM
Quote from: Matilo Telephones on February 25, 2014, 05:00:45 PM
Here it is:

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=10866.0


thank you my friend ;)
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Post by: david@london on March 04, 2014, 02:20:08 PM
......a definite improvement on the keypad, after about 10 mins with the philips electric toothbrush & a small amount of novus 2 -

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Post by: Contempra on March 04, 2014, 02:52:15 PM
Quote from: david@london on March 04, 2014, 02:20:08 PM
......a definite improvement on the keypad, after about 10 mins with the philips electric toothbrush & a small amount of novus 2 -

good job on it David.
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Post by: Mr. Bones on March 04, 2014, 03:34:05 PM
Nice results, David!

     I hope you enjoy your 'new' phone!

Best regards!
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Post by: david@london on September 16, 2015, 03:52:43 PM
a new phone arrived today, a turquoise* 2500D dated 1/74.

i had suspected that it might be turquoise rather than aqua blue, but it's hard to be sure from photos, so i was extremely chuffed to see the true colour.
apart from a bad case of sun-fading, it's in great condition.
it doesn't have the full curved 'operator', being a '74 model, but ............just loving this phone.

*edit......it's actually aqua, not turquoise - see below
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: NorthernElectric on September 16, 2015, 07:00:14 PM
Quote from: unbeldi on March 22, 2013, 06:37:14 PM
From your picture of the SKyline dialcard I had no trouble making a replica blank dial card, actually a whole sheet of them.  Fill in the station number and print it on 'aged' card stock or use a color printer to age the background graphically.

(http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8210.0;attach=63632;image)

Did you make that from David's photo or from scratch?  If from scratch, what font is that?
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Post by: unbeldi on September 16, 2015, 07:25:28 PM
Quote from: NorthernElectric on September 16, 2015, 07:00:14 PM
Quote from: unbeldi on March 22, 2013, 06:37:14 PM
From your picture of the SKyline dialcard I had no trouble making a replica blank dial card, actually a whole sheet of them.  Fill in the station number and print it on 'aged' card stock or use a color printer to age the background graphically.



Did you make that from David's photo or from scratch?  If from scratch, what font is that?

No, it was a reproduction from the original image with some image processing to get rid of artifacts.
I still have a large stack of these.
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Post by: NorthernElectric on September 16, 2015, 07:29:25 PM
Quote from: unbeldi on September 16, 2015, 07:25:28 PM
Quote from: NorthernElectric on September 16, 2015, 07:00:14 PM
Quote from: unbeldi on March 22, 2013, 06:37:14 PM
From your picture of the SKyline dialcard I had no trouble making a replica blank dial card, actually a whole sheet of them.  Fill in the station number and print it on 'aged' card stock or use a color printer to age the background graphically.



Did you make that from David's photo or from scratch?  If from scratch, what font is that?

No, it was a reproduction from the original image with some image processing to get rid of artifacts.
I still have a large stack of these.

OK, thanks.  I thought it might have been, but it turned out so good I wasn't sure.  What software do you use?
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: unbeldi on September 16, 2015, 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: NorthernElectric on September 16, 2015, 07:29:25 PM
Quote from: unbeldi on September 16, 2015, 07:25:28 PM
Quote from: NorthernElectric on September 16, 2015, 07:00:14 PM
Quote from: unbeldi on March 22, 2013, 06:37:14 PM
From your picture of the SKyline dialcard I had no trouble making a replica blank dial card, actually a whole sheet of them.  Fill in the station number and print it on 'aged' card stock or use a color printer to age the background graphically.



Did you make that from David's photo or from scratch?  If from scratch, what font is that?

No, it was a reproduction from the original image with some image processing to get rid of artifacts.
I still have a large stack of these.

OK, thanks.  I thought it might have been, but it turned out so good I wasn't sure.  What software do you use?

I use a variety of different tools for different purposes and best features.  For image cleanup I may have used ImageMagick command line tools. For other things perhaps GIMP, and for page composition of the printed sheet probably OS X Preview, which is a fantastically simple tool.

The example in that green phone was just printed on white paper, it looks more authentic when printed on ivory card stock.
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Post by: NorthernElectric on September 16, 2015, 08:21:12 PM
Quote from: unbeldi on September 16, 2015, 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: NorthernElectric on September 16, 2015, 07:29:25 PM
Quote from: unbeldi on September 16, 2015, 07:25:28 PM
Quote from: NorthernElectric on September 16, 2015, 07:00:14 PM
Quote from: unbeldi on March 22, 2013, 06:37:14 PM
From your picture of the SKyline dialcard I had no trouble making a replica blank dial card, actually a whole sheet of them.  Fill in the station number and print it on 'aged' card stock or use a color printer to age the background graphically.



Did you make that from David's photo or from scratch?  If from scratch, what font is that?

No, it was a reproduction from the original image with some image processing to get rid of artifacts.
I still have a large stack of these.

OK, thanks.  I thought it might have been, but it turned out so good I wasn't sure.  What software do you use?

I use a variety of different tools for different purposes and best features.  For image cleanup I may have used ImageMagick command line tools. For other things perhaps GIMP, and for page composition of the printed sheet probably OS X Preview, which is a fantastically simple tool.

The example in that green phone was just printed on white paper, it looks more authentic when printed on ivory card stock.

I have ImageMagick on my FreeBSD box and Gimp on my Windows box.  I have used Gimp a fair bit but haven't really taken the time to learn what I can do with ImageMagick.  But I have a scanned dial card in desperate need of despeckling so will definitely spend some time with it now.  You posted something else recently that was nicely cleaned up (AE catalog?).  Did you use ImageMagick's mogrify for that?
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: unbeldi on September 16, 2015, 09:15:14 PM
Quote from: NorthernElectric on September 16, 2015, 08:21:12 PM

I have ImageMagick on my FreeBSD box and Gimp on my Windows box.  I have used Gimp a fair bit but haven't really taken the time to learn what I can do with ImageMagick.  But I have a scanned dial card in desperate need of despeckling so will definitely spend some time with it now.  You posted something else recently that was nicely cleaned up (AE catalog?).  Did you use ImageMagick's mogrify for that?

Hmm, I don't remember what I used on the catalog. I have created my own set of tools for various specific task, such as cropping, level and contrast adjustments, trimming, resizing, repaging on all page images in batch mode. I don't keep track of exactly what worked best for a given document. Usually I use the 'convert' utility, not 'mogrify', they are very similar though.
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on September 17, 2015, 08:36:33 AM
...the turquoise 2500 is looking better after a warm bath, handset cord  treatment + a replica number card added.

anyone know of a source for printable scans of these cards ?
found this one here some time ago...........thanks to whoever uploaded it.

i'll have a try at peroxide bleaching....perhaps if we get some autumn sun.
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: Doug Rose on September 17, 2015, 07:30:41 PM
David....looks great....Doug
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Post by: david@london on October 01, 2015, 12:25:20 PM
......thanks doug.

after 3-4 hours of 20% peroxide 20 Volume - 6% Peroxide in the sun, a great improvement.
i was surprised at how quickly the treatment worked. i was swirling the hair stuff with a paintbrush every hour, however there are some just noticeable, pale irregularities in the colour which i think will buff out with a fine micromesh pad.

i'm now thinking that i have in fact an aqua, not a turquoise phone. the inside looked turquoise to me................well, i don't mind anyway.
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: DavePEI on October 02, 2015, 05:18:07 AM
Looks good, David!
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Post by: david@london on October 05, 2015, 11:53:39 AM
.....thank you dave

after another hour or so under the sun + peroxide yesterday, the colour is looking much better, bluer.
the small irregularities - barely noticeable white streaks - have polished out well with micromesh.
following christian's poolside photos (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=14866.msg154854#msg154854), i have snapped the phone in front of the closest thing i have to a swimming pool.

*long h/s cord added
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Post by: david@london on January 31, 2017, 07:24:18 AM
sincere thanks to bruce (slal) who recently sent me this rosewood beige WE 500, dated 9-56.

.......a really excellent job of packing ensured its safe arrival in suffolk, england from texas via chicago, detroit, london and ipswich.......
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Post by: AL_as_needed on February 01, 2017, 11:03:02 AM
That is a HUGE improvement in the color, a very strong candidate for the peroxide treatment! I also think we need to make more of a thing of those "pool side" photos.... :D
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Post by: david@london on February 02, 2017, 09:37:38 AM
thanks al.......

i was really pleased with the result of my 1st and, so far, only peroxide job on the discoloured aqua blue 2500. the aqua colour responded v well to the treatment -

before/after -

Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: Slal on February 02, 2017, 12:46:41 PM
Got an unexpected tube of GPO-spec polishing cream today.  Thank you very much!

Very nice phone collection and happy to have helped add to it.

Your aqua colored phones look better than mine do!  Since my dad was in the USAF, I'm partial to the one from the one air base.   :)

--Bruce   
   
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Post by: david@london on November 09, 2017, 03:31:16 PM
.....you're very welcome bruce, that greygate paste is top drawer stuff for a piano black shine on bakelite.
thanks again for sending the '56 rose beige and the great packing job.....it's absolutely my favourite phone now.

david.
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Post by: HarrySmith on November 09, 2017, 03:47:29 PM
I wonder if that is the secret to McMurdosilvers high gloss bakelite handsets?? I may have to get some!
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Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on November 09, 2017, 04:29:07 PM
Quote from: HarrySmith on November 09, 2017, 03:47:29 PM
I wonder if that is the secret to McMurdosilvers high gloss bakelite handsets?? I may have to get some!
I doubt it would do anything for heavily handled Bakelite, honestly.

Bakelite becomes extremely porous when exposed to skin oils over time. Other than filling the microscopic pores with something to reflect the light more smoothly (like wax), there's no polish out there that can fix this.

Worn Bakelite is a different story. Bakelite that's simply worn (such as cradle areas) is easy to polish, and can often be returned to that beautiful original shine.

Bakelite housings aren't touched and handled nearly as often as handsets, so they are easy to restore. This polish might work well in that case! :)
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: HarrySmith on November 09, 2017, 04:51:40 PM
Right. How does he get such a great shine? I have sent him messages asking about it but never get a reply.
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on November 09, 2017, 08:42:17 PM
Quote from: HarrySmith on November 09, 2017, 04:51:40 PM
Right. How does he get such a great shine? I have sent him messages asking about it but never get a reply.
I would guess he gets his hands on some really nice phones from the start. Then, fine detail wetsands and polishes everything.

Are we sure he doesn't paint his phones, or photoshop the pictures?
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on November 11, 2017, 07:48:17 AM
harry -

this is the stuff... greygate polishing paste no. 5. (http://www.greygate.com/product/paste-polishing-no-5/) i'm not sure if it's available in america or canada.
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on February 02, 2019, 08:17:34 AM
Latest addition last year was this pink WE2500 (1970), from a seller in St Louis, Missouri.
The phone is now residing at my daughter's flat (birthday present).

It had a slight orange discolouration when I received it. I used some 20% 20 vol 6% peroxide......
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: LarryInMichigan on February 02, 2019, 07:34:41 PM
David,

That looks very nice, especially with the colour-coordinated planters.  I expect that your daughter was tickled pink to get this gift :).

Larry
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Post by: Key2871 on February 02, 2019, 08:15:03 PM
Your doing a great job at restoring those phone's!
You certainly have some nice examples there, congratulations..!

Ken
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on February 03, 2019, 07:07:06 PM
Thank you fellas.

Yea Larry, she was pretty chuffed.......now I need to sort one out for her sis.


Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on April 14, 2019, 11:28:39 AM
......sorted.

My 2nd daughter's birthday is in a couple of weeks and i'll be giving her this Jan 1959 aqua 500.

It had an application of 20 vol peroxide just on the housing recently and its handset cord was given the full treatment yesterday (reversal of coils, heat, freeze).
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: FABphones on April 14, 2019, 02:36:39 PM
Quote from: david@london on April 14, 2019, 11:28:39 AM
......sorted.

My 2nd daughter's birthday is in a couple of weeks and i'll be giving her this Jan 1959 aqua 500.

It had an application of 20 vol peroxide just on the housing recently and its handset cord was given the full treatment yesterday (reversal of coils, heat, freeze).

Looking good. And it's a nice shade too. Did you find that in the UK?
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on April 14, 2019, 03:27:42 PM
Thank you FABphones.

No - I've only ever bought one US phone from a GB seller - a manual 302. Postage can be a bit drastic having phones sent over from the States -  but worth it I think.

Looking at my list of where they all came from, I see that this one was from Harrisburg, PA.....
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on October 15, 2019, 02:24:19 PM
I received this 1966 Ivory PTT U43 yesterday.
It seems to be in nearly new condition with a few surface scratches.
All original cords and the Ecouteur receiver at the back.
Neat white feet in good shape.

I had been keeping half an eye out for one of these lovely French phones for over a year.

There is no internal ringer in the U43, does anyone have any info on the correct external one?
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on October 15, 2019, 02:27:26 PM
Dated on the base 21.6.66......

Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: Doug Rose on October 15, 2019, 07:27:55 PM
David...wonderful phone..it is in pristine condition. I felt lucky to get my black set. Find of the month my friend.....Doug
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: FABphones on October 16, 2019, 07:42:05 AM
Quote from: david@london on October 15, 2019, 02:24:19 PM
....There is no internal ringer in the U43, does anyone have any info on the correct external one?

Could you pop a photo up of inside, some did have a ringer (have you tried ringing it)?

A good find in very nice condition.


Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on October 16, 2019, 12:10:11 PM
@Doug & CJ, thanks.

The line cord has been cut from its plug or connection box, so I might need to fit a new cord. Present one is 3 strand, red, white, blue.

Access via the base is bit of a dismantling job; it seems you need to to remove the cords' wiring block as the base plate is 'stepped' and dips under the block.

edit: wrong there, as pointed out by FabPhones, below. Remove 2 screw-in pillars in top corners

Meanwhile, a good shake of the phone results in no jingling or tinkling bells so I think its ringer-less. Didn't know some had internal ringers.

Searching for U43 external ringers, I found this image on a French forum called Futura... (https://forums.futura-sciences.com/depannage/603149-sonnerie-telephone-a-cadran-u43-de-1961-a.html)
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: FABphones on October 16, 2019, 01:35:24 PM
Quote from: david@london on October 16, 2019, 12:10:11 PM
The line cord has been cut from its plug or connection box, so I might need to fit a new cord....

Instructions on how to fit a UK line cord here:
https://www.britishtelephones.com/pstconv1.htm#non

Quote from: david@london on October 16, 2019, 12:10:11 PM
....Access via the base is bit of a dismantling job; it seems you need to to remove the cords' wiring block as the base plate is 'stepped' and dips under the block....

That shouldn't be necessary, but when I get a moment I'll open one of mine and take a couple of step by step photos. :)

Quote from: david@london on October 16, 2019, 12:10:11 PM
....Meanwhile, a good shake of the phone results in no jingling or tinkling bells so I think its ringer-less. Didn't know some had internal ringers.

You won't hear any tinkling, no gongs in there. One of mine has a ringer, the other doesn't.

Here is another example of a French wall mounted bell set (hiding on the photo behind a PTT24):
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on October 16, 2019, 05:43:47 PM
Quote from: FABphones on October 16, 2019, 01:35:24 PM
Instructions on how to fit a UK line cord here:
https://www.britishtelephones.com/pstconv1.htm#non

Many thanks.
I have a spare BT ivory 4 strand line cord.
It will need a rectifier across terminals 3+4?
Something like this?......ebay link. (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1A-Silicon-Rectifier-Diode-1N4001-to-1N4007-Pack-of-10-25-or-50/111777815515?hash=item1a067a1bdb:m:mrn6u_XT7jetZ63QEHmYYiA)

Photos of interior....ou est mon ringer, CJ?

Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: LarryInMichigan on October 16, 2019, 07:57:41 PM
These phones were not made with internal ringers.  I have both black and ivory versions, and neither has a ringer.  They are rather elegant looking.

Larry
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: FABphones on October 17, 2019, 12:07:35 AM
Quote from: david@london on October 16, 2019, 05:43:47 PM
...ou est mon ringer, CJ?

il n'y en a pas. It would seem more were made without.

You did good. It looks like it has been looked after.  :)


ETA: This listing, number 233371550056, now on eBay:
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: tubaman on October 17, 2019, 04:17:18 AM
That's a very nice example - made in the same year as me as well!
;D
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on October 17, 2019, 09:08:20 AM
Thanks tubaman, and thank you all for the help and info....it's now up & running, has dialtone.

Put in new ivory line cord, no rectifier seems to be necessary.

The external ringer would certainly be a great addition, I was interested to see what the appropriate one would look like.

Cheers guys.

Fr/Eng L.C. Setup reminder......
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: oldguy on October 18, 2019, 11:52:48 PM
Beautiful phone David. How many daughters do you have to give phones to?😀😀
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on October 19, 2019, 03:36:01 PM
Thanks, Gary.
I have two - they both like antique and vintage things, so were v pleased with their classic phones.
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: countryman on October 20, 2019, 04:04:56 PM
Not sure until ?when? the U43 were made, but a '66 is a late model. Mine is a '63.
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on October 25, 2019, 05:35:59 PM
Quote from: FABphones on October 16, 2019, 01:35:24 PM
One of mine has a ringer, the other doesn't.

FabPhones, is the ringer in your U43 an actual ringer with gongs, rather than a buzzer?

Countryman, I've been looking for info on that question, unsuccessfully. I would agree that 1966 must be a late model. The S63 I believe was first available in 1963 and quite widespread by '65.
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on March 24, 2020, 08:37:51 PM
Sorting through 15 or so SD cards of photos... found this, taken in London
December 2015....
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on December 12, 2021, 07:05:39 AM
Western Electric 2500D Touch-Tone 1970....
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on December 15, 2021, 09:40:56 AM
This WE500 Signal Corps, dated 12/52 on the base, was the first U.S. phone I ever bought,
found at an East of London antique shop. It has a strong whiff of liquorice mixed with Gorgonzola.

As it is a Signal Corps phone, our GM, CJ, requested some info and pictures....

The transmitter is a modern replacement and there have been some other additions since 1952 - the dial is a 7D dated 1-62, the bakelite caps + receiver element are 8-58.

I added a straight handset cord, dated 55, as the phone came with a late 60s/70s replacement coiled cord.

Network marked 11-52 SAC 1340.

Base marked GA-51859  12-52

Shell 12 13 52 1

C2A ringer 12-52

Numbercard I added, the phone came without one.

Handset is a G1 Western Electric, no S.C. marking.

Imprint under cradle - SIGNAL CORPS US ARMY TELEPHONE SET  TA-236/FT Western Electric

Seller included 2 US Army card tags marked 130th EI Squadron Salt Lake City, Utah.

It seems likely that this phone was used at a USAF base in England.

The base is in a fairly worn-in state, though the shell looks nearly new, with a high shine to it.

Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on December 15, 2021, 09:44:35 AM
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Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on April 14, 2022, 09:14:01 AM
Pink TT, after a quick bath, is ready for its application of salon crème peroxide. Orange tinge visible on case and handset (not caps)...

Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on February 02, 2023, 01:20:06 PM
Quote from: FABphones on October 16, 2019, 01:35:24 PMYou won't hear any tinkling, no gongs in there. One of mine has a ringer, the other doesn't.

CJ, could you post a photo of the interior of your U-43 with the ringer pls?
Am v interested to see what that looks like. Merci bien.
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: FABphones on February 02, 2023, 01:52:35 PM
Quote from: david@london on February 02, 2023, 01:20:06 PM...could you post a photo of the interior of your U-43 with the ringer pls...

Salut David. Hopefully this screenshot will help you compare. I'm not able to open any phones up at the mo.

This is a handy website which details the U43 téléphone taken apart:
http://mgc99.free.fr/Telephone/U43.html

Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: FABphones on February 02, 2023, 02:06:03 PM
Quote from: david@london on October 16, 2019, 05:43:47 PM...ou est mon ringer, CJ?

There is no buzzer in your U43 (not all of mine have one either).
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: Contempra on February 02, 2023, 09:09:40 PM
Quote from: FABphones on February 02, 2023, 01:52:35 PMSalut David. Hopefully this screenshot will help you compare. I'm not able to open any phones up at the mo.

This is a handy website which details the U43 téléphone taken apart:
http://mgc99.free.fr/Telephone/U43.html


Thank you FAB for the link , very interesting .
Title: Re: telephone photos - david@london
Post by: david@london on February 04, 2023, 10:43:13 AM
Perhaps the internal buzzer was for phones used in offices and those with separate bell boxes for home use? Many thanks CJ... great info.