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Telephone Talk => Collector's Corner => Topic started by: Adam on September 16, 2010, 11:26:10 AM

Title: Red Phones
Post by: Adam on September 16, 2010, 11:26:10 AM
My favorite color for telephones is red.  I have nice 500s, 2500s, trimlines and Princesses in red.  I have have a really nice touch tone key set in red.  However, I've been trying to get a red rotary key set for about year.

I finally have one now, thanks to eBay.  What I got from eBay was the case only, I have put this together using other parts already in my collection.  It is now working and on my desk.

It's still not my ultimate phone, I'm still looking for one with the older designation strip holder style, and also non-modular.  But, I'm enjoying this one for now!

-Dave Haber
Massapequa Telephone
C*Net 1-798-7619
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: HarrySmith on September 16, 2010, 11:47:26 AM
Nice phone Dave ;D
I am still looking for Red 500's for my collection, I need a soft one and a hard one, non modular ;)
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Doug Rose on September 16, 2010, 12:44:17 PM
Red is a cool color in phones. A WE thermoplastic 302 on left and a WE softplastic 302 with a matching painted handset.....Doug
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Dave F on September 16, 2010, 01:27:26 PM
Quote from: masstel on September 16, 2010, 11:26:10 AM
My favorite color for telephones is red.  I have nice 500s, 2500s, trimlines and Princesses in red.  I have have a really nice touch tone key set in red.  However, I've been trying to get a red rotary key set for about year.

I finally have one now, thanks to eBay.  What I got from eBay was the case only, I have put this together using other parts already in my collection.  It is now working and on my desk.

It's still not my ultimate phone, I'm still looking for one with the older designation strip holder style, and also non-modular.  But, I'm enjoying this one for now!

-Dave Haber
Massapequa Telephone
C*Net 1-798-7619

Hi Dave, glad you got that red 565 housing.  It looks good.

Dave F.

Red is also one of my favorite phone colors and, as some of you already know, Card Dialers are some of my favorite phones.  So, red Card Dialers would be fine items for me to collect.  Here are my three.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Dennis Markham on September 16, 2010, 03:54:28 PM
Dave (masstel), your red key set looks very nice.  I notice it has a dial card from Michigan.  313 is now just the City of Detroit but at one time it covered most of southeast Michigan.

Dave F, yours look nice too.  I also enjoy red phones.  I would love to someday have a Red (not Pekin Red) 202 like the one Finlover posted some time ago.

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=2100.0
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Greg G. on September 16, 2010, 04:04:05 PM
I have one, June 62, on loan to Mom.  The handset cord is dyed red (that's the way I got it).  I would like to get an authentic red cord for it.

Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on September 16, 2010, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: Dennis Markham on September 16, 2010, 03:54:28 PM
...
Dave F, yours look nice too.  I also enjoy red phones.  I would love to someday have a Red (not Pekin Red) 202 like the one Finlover posted some time ago.
...

Dennis:

finlover who  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on September 16, 2010, 04:31:44 PM
My favorite red phone, from 1958.

Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: HarrySmith on September 16, 2010, 04:33:17 PM
darn :o
I am jealous, that is one beautiful mushroom phone :)
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: teka-bb on September 16, 2010, 04:45:19 PM
Some of my favorites:

(http://www.telefoonmuseum.com/images/equipment/010_Telefoontoestellen/suh_fg_tist_282_rood_t.jpg)
German red desk phone made by Siemens & Halske type Fg tist 282 T. Produced since 1954.

(http://www.telefoonmuseum.com/images/equipment/010_Telefoontoestellen/grillo.jpg)
(http://www.telefoonmuseum.com/images/equipment/010_Telefoontoestellen/grillo2.jpg)
Italian red desk phone made by Siemens Italy type Grillo.

(http://www.telefoonmuseum.com/images/equipment/010_Telefoontoestellen/t65_rood.jpg)
Red desk phone made by Dutch Ericsson, type T65.

(http://www.telefoonmuseum.com/images/equipment/010_Telefoontoestellen/t65_rood_tdk.jpg)
Red desk phone made by Dutch Ericsson, type T65 TDK.

(http://www.telefoonmuseum.com/images/equipment/010_Telefoontoestellen/t65_delft_rood.jpg)
Transparent red desk phone made by Centrale WerkPlaats (CWP) in The Hague, type T65 Delft.

(http://www.telefoonmuseum.com/images/equipment/010_Telefoontoestellen/ericofoon_rood.jpg)
Red Dutch PTT Ericofon made by Ericsson.

(http://www.telefoonmuseum.com/images/equipment/010_Telefoontoestellen/unifoon_rood.jpg)
Desk phone covered with brown leather, made by NSEM, type Unifoon TDK.

(http://www.telefoonmuseum.com/images/equipment/010_Telefoontoestellen/hilversum_rood.jpg)
Red desk phone, type Hilversum IDK.
Introduced in the Netherlands on Oktober 30 1984.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on September 16, 2010, 04:55:48 PM
Quote from: HarrySmith on September 16, 2010, 04:33:17 PM
darn :o
I am jealous, that is one beautiful mushroom phone :)

Harry:

More pictures here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/Amelyenator/1958WesternElectricPhoneWithNightLight# -- DEAD LINK
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on September 16, 2010, 04:57:01 PM
Remco:

I like the Grillo (cricket) phone, especially the elaborate 3 prong connector.

Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Dennis Markham on September 16, 2010, 05:41:04 PM
Harry, I agree......that mushroom phone that Jorge refurbished IS one beautiful phone.

Jorge, I also like that Italian red phone with the 3 prong plug.  Nice phones Remco.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Adam on September 16, 2010, 05:43:04 PM
Dennis: I like to have an appropriate number card on every phone in my collection that I actually use, and that's almost all of them, as I rotate my favorites in and out of service.  Unfortunately, I don't have a "real" number card for all of them, so I scanned that 313 number card from another phone in my collection, and use a printed copy for all my phones that don't have number cards.

Since it's scanned in high res from a real number card, including all the original perforations, when installed under a finger wheel, you just can't tell it's not real.  It's very magical!  :)

Similarly, the key designation strip is reproduced from a much earlier key set acquisition of mine.  I actually can't remember what phone I got that had the 313 number card on it originally...
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: teka-bb on September 16, 2010, 05:44:56 PM
Quote from: JorgeAmely on September 16, 2010, 04:57:01 PM
Remco:

I like the Grillo (cricket) phone, especially the elaborate 3 prong connector.



The connector holds a buzzer, that's why it is so big. Did you notice the dial? There is no visible finger stop.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Dennis Markham on September 16, 2010, 06:04:03 PM
I thought the dial almost looks like a touch tone pad.  Is it?
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: teka-bb on September 16, 2010, 06:05:53 PM
Quote from: Dennis Markham on September 16, 2010, 06:04:03 PM
I thought the dial almost looks like a touch tone pad.  Is it?

No, it's a rotary phone. Maybe a should make a little video showing how the dial "works"?
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Dennis Markham on September 16, 2010, 06:11:38 PM
Remco, I see that first red phone you posted is also in your signature at the bottom of your posts. 
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Doug Rose on September 16, 2010, 06:58:11 PM
Quote from: JorgeAmely on September 16, 2010, 04:31:44 PM
My favorite red phone, from 1958.


Jorge...beautiful phone!....Doug
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Dennis Markham on September 16, 2010, 07:16:23 PM
This is my favorite Cherry Red phone (at the moment).  It was born 7 days before I was back in April of 1955.  The housing is dated 4-15-55.  It's an eBay phone.  It lived its life in the Birmingham, Alabama area.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Kenny C on September 16, 2010, 07:45:23 PM
no red phones now (but dont worry i am fixing to fix that) ;D
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: AE_Collector on September 16, 2010, 08:42:35 PM
Quote from: Dennis Markham on September 16, 2010, 05:41:04 PM
Harry, I agree......that mushroom phone that Jorge refurbished IS one beautiful phone.

Well, I don't know,.....It's not as though Jorge has any "UGLY phones". At least he doesn't show us any "ugly phone" pictures until the time that we can no longer relate the picture of the "Beautiful Phone" sitting on the concrete block wall in his front yard to the "ugly phone" pictures...

Terry
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: bingster on September 16, 2010, 09:34:00 PM
I've often worried about the proximity of those delicate finishes on that wall of his. :P
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on September 16, 2010, 09:46:44 PM
Quote from: Dennis Markham on September 16, 2010, 07:16:23 PM
This is my favorite Cherry Red phone (at the moment) ...

Dennis:

Here is his lost "compadre" also a birthday phone for me.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on September 16, 2010, 09:49:40 PM
Another nice two tone in red and black.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on September 16, 2010, 09:52:26 PM
And to make Ken # 1 and Terry happy, an AE80 also. Made in 1959 in has a thick finger wheel and chromed plungers.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: rdelius on September 16, 2010, 10:01:19 PM
Are red type 80s hard to find everywhere? I have lived in GTE country (Durham NC and Dunedin FL.from 1965. I have only found 2 local ones. Both are the earlier series with loop adjustment,Painted neoprene cords,chrome ring on fingerwheel etc.My father worked for GTE and never saw one.
Robby
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on September 16, 2010, 10:14:50 PM
The shiny one pictured two posts below came from Greenfield, Illinois. This one (picture attached) came from South Carolina. Unfortunately, it had a broken, dented housing and I used it for parts.

I use this automatic search in ebay :

(automatic electric, a e, ae, monophone, leich, gte, chicago) under the category:

Collectibles > Radio, Phonograph, TV, Phone > Telephones

and once in a while one shows up. You can set up ebay to send you an email when something new shows up that matches this category.

Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Dennis Markham on September 16, 2010, 10:35:07 PM
Great photos, Jorge.  Is that trick photography?? :)
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on September 16, 2010, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: Dennis Markham on September 16, 2010, 10:35:07 PM
Great photos, Jorge.  Is that trick photography?? :)

Dennis: It is called "elbow grease, then photography". I learned it from you.  ;)
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: mienaichizu on September 17, 2010, 09:46:09 AM
Here are my red telephones
1. LM Ericsson, my latest purchase, not yet restored
2. NEC Type 4, actually its a maroon phone
3. and lastly my Japanese red payphone
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Doug Rose on September 17, 2010, 09:48:51 AM
I love the NEC phone. I'll keep an eye out for the NEC plaque that is missing from the front. This is one sharp looking phone....Doug
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: mienaichizu on September 17, 2010, 09:54:34 AM
thanks Doug
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Adam on September 17, 2010, 11:11:25 AM
Here are two more of my favorite red telephones in my collection.

The 500 with a regular (numerals only) dial is a Stromberg-Carlson.

-Dave Haber
Massapequa Telephone
C*NET 1-798-7619
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on September 17, 2010, 11:13:08 AM
Dave:

Is the numerals only phone for rural markets?
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Adam on September 17, 2010, 11:26:43 AM
Ah.  That's a long story.  Yes, they were used in rural areas.  But they were also used in many local systems as the phones behind switch boards and PBXes, and also in areas where they just never added letters to phone numbers until much, much later, like Puerto Rico.

I'm not sure how universal the term "regular" was for dials with numerals only, but it's what ITT called them ("regular" was numerals only, as opposed to "metropolitan", which was numbers and letters).

I have a small collection of phones with regular dials in various colors, mostly 500s.

-Dave Haber
Massapequa Telephone
C*NET 1-798-7619
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Greg G. on September 18, 2010, 06:07:00 AM
Quote from: mienaichizu on September 17, 2010, 09:46:09 AM
2. NEC Type 4, actually its a maroon phone

Shades of red are ok.  I want a Type 4 to keep my Type 3 company.  Here's a scan of the dial card.  I scanned it on my home scanner, so it may not be high enough resolution to print, but you can try.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: AdamAnt316 on September 18, 2010, 11:17:43 AM
Here's my red ITT 2500 motel phone (neon message waiting light, plus a sticker telling the user how to dial out). Currently, it's ringer sounds louder if the phone is upside-down.  ???

(http://www.electronixandmore.com/adam/images/phone/itt2500.jpg)

-Adam
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Adam on September 18, 2010, 11:52:45 AM
The red phones everyone's posted so far are very cool!

Adam:  Nice phone.  I don't have any ITT cherry red in my collection.  The interesting thing about ITT red is that they changed it at some point in the seventies.  My 1970 ITT TIMM2 (Telephone Instrument Maintenance Manual), in the available colors, lists red with the color code 02.  However, my 1975 TIMM2 lists Cherry Red as color code 47.

ITT 47 red is a brighter red than Western Electric 53 red, and I believe it's what your phone is, Adam.  I believe the original ITT Red 02 was identical to Western Electric red 53, in the same way that Stromberg Carlson red was (see my pics above).

Red phones is fun!
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: mienaichizu on September 18, 2010, 12:30:29 PM
Quote from: Brinybay on September 18, 2010, 06:07:00 AM
Quote from: mienaichizu on September 17, 2010, 09:46:09 AM
2. NEC Type 4, actually its a maroon phone

Shades of red are ok.  I want a Type 4 to keep my Type 3 company.  Here's a scan of the dial card.  I scanned it on my home scanner, so it may not be high enough resolution to print, but you can try.

thanks brinybay for the scan
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: McHeath on September 18, 2010, 11:09:12 PM
Golly gee what a nice collection of red phones!  I don't have anything in full red, just a fake red/black two tone 500 that I cooked up with a red shell I bought at the phone show in San Jose California last year. 
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: KeithB on September 19, 2010, 04:38:05 PM
You're all making me envious, and now I'm thinking about re-painting my WE233G payphone glossy red instead of black.  :o ;D ::)
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: LarryInMichigan on September 19, 2010, 05:19:30 PM
For what it's worth, I have a 12-95 red ITT/Cortleco 2500 DM (minus a handset cord) which I bought last summer for $4 or $5 at a SA thrift store.  It looks exactly like Adam's, but without the red light dome and handset cord.  I figured that I could salvage the transmitter and network from it for use in older phones, but I have decided to leave it as-is for now.

Larry
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: AdamAnt316 on September 20, 2010, 12:38:41 PM
Quote from: masstel on September 18, 2010, 11:52:45 AM
Adam:  Nice phone.  I don't have any ITT cherry red in my collection.  The interesting thing about ITT red is that they changed it at some point in the seventies.  My 1970 ITT TIMM2 (Telephone Instrument Maintenance Manual), in the available colors, lists red with the color code 02.  However, my 1975 TIMM2 lists Cherry Red as color code 47.

ITT 47 red is a brighter red than Western Electric 53 red, and I believe it's what your phone is, Adam.  I believe the original ITT Red 02 was identical to Western Electric red 53, in the same way that Stromberg Carlson red was (see my pics above).

Indeed, the baseplate of my ITT 2500 says "47" on the bottom, next to the model number. Oddly, the handset cord doesn't quite match the color of the rest of the phone as far as brightness goes, though it could just be dirty.
-Adam
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Dave F on September 21, 2010, 12:31:46 PM
Red 851BM wall keyset (1977).
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Greg G. on September 21, 2010, 04:13:56 PM
Quote from: mienaichizu on September 17, 2010, 09:46:09 AM
Here are my red telephones
2. NEC Type 4, actually its a maroon phone

Do the Type 4's have a manufacture date on them anywhere?  My Type 3 does not.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Dave F on September 22, 2010, 01:14:33 PM
Red 1500 with G6 handset.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Dave F on September 22, 2010, 01:22:01 PM
Here's a red 108 loudspeaker for a 4A Speakerphone.  I'm still looking for the matching red 680 Transmitter, in case anybody knows where one might be hiding.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: mienaichizu on September 22, 2010, 09:08:54 PM
Quote from: Dave F on September 22, 2010, 01:14:33 PM
Red 1500 with G6 handset.

only one of my type 4 that has a manufacturer's date, it says 1936 on the transmitter
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: rdelius on September 24, 2010, 04:46:08 PM
On the japanese type 4 set you use 1936 as the date, this might be  the year showa 36.which would be 1961. These sets were post war and inspired by the 302.
Robby
Photo of my Soviet red set made my V E F in Riga in Oct 1968
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: finlover on September 24, 2010, 07:05:31 PM
Quote from: JorgeAmely on September 16, 2010, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: Dennis Markham on September 16, 2010, 03:54:28 PM
...
Dave F, yours look nice too.  I also enjoy red phones.  I would love to someday have a Red (not Pekin Red) 202 like the one Finlover posted some time ago.
...

Dennis:

finlover who  ??? ??? ???

Okay, Mr. Smarty Pantalones, I'll be posting some red phone photos tonight--get ready!
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on September 24, 2010, 07:37:38 PM
Game on!   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

PS: You have a lot of posting to catch up to.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Kenny C on September 24, 2010, 07:39:49 PM
AMEN TO THAT

i can leave for an hour and then i am behind 5 pages  ;) We are a chatty little group
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: finlover on September 24, 2010, 08:22:38 PM
Okay, here we go.  Most of you guys have seen these already, especially the Continental that Dennis posted a link to earlier, but here they are anyway.  I hope I never have to sell these babies:  a '57 554, a '55 500 and the Continental.  I also have a red '60s rotary multi-line phone but I haven't taken pictures of that one.  Enjoy!
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: finlover on September 24, 2010, 08:25:40 PM
more
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: finlover on September 24, 2010, 08:27:57 PM
even more
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: finlover on September 24, 2010, 08:33:11 PM
And just for fun here's the "Red Dragon" phone I did for my son who was born in 2000, the year of the dragon.  Don't worry--no rare or valuable phones were harmed in the making of this creation!
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: mienaichizu on September 24, 2010, 08:41:10 PM
I am always amazed on how you refinish your phones
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Kenny C on September 24, 2010, 08:42:56 PM
I was born in 1996 what Animal am I?
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: finlover on September 24, 2010, 09:20:09 PM
Yours is the year of the mouse, so you need Mickey Mouse phone in your collection for sure!  And here I thought you were born in '55 from your screen name.  Well, welcome to the hobby, you little whippersnapper!  Collecting old phones is easy--talking to girls is the hard part. ???
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: finlover on September 24, 2010, 09:23:37 PM
Quote from: mienaichizu on September 24, 2010, 08:41:10 PM
I am always amazed on how you refinish your phones
Thanks a million, meinaichizu!  It just takes a lot of sanding, polishing and buffing--the trick is knowing when to stop sanding... ;D
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Kenny C on September 24, 2010, 09:25:34 PM
ha that always been a easy #to remember i dunno why.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: easytiger on September 24, 2010, 11:06:39 PM
My one and only.  I'm a fool for a phone with vents.  Recently outfitted with a genuine Extensicord, still looking for information or photos of original AE40 line/mounting cords (see referenced thread)...baby could use a cord.

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=3414.0 (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=3414.0)

Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Kenny C on September 24, 2010, 11:10:01 PM
Here is what my parents are getting me + a lap top  ;D
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on September 25, 2010, 01:36:42 AM
Quote from: easytiger on September 24, 2010, 11:06:39 PM
... My one and only ...

Aaaah, a red AE40 with chrome bands. One of my favorite phones. Usually they go for 4 figures on ebay. I wish I had one in that color. Instead, I have one in ivory. I have attached a picture below.

Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on September 25, 2010, 01:38:11 AM
Quote from: Kennyc1955 on September 24, 2010, 11:10:01 PM
Here is what my parents are getting me + a lap top  ;D

Congratulations on your soft plastic red WE500. I like the numbers card a lot!
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Kenny C on September 25, 2010, 01:43:19 AM
I LOVE it. I am getting it for a great price too
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: finlover on September 25, 2010, 03:01:13 AM
OH MAMA--those colored AE40s have got my number!!!
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Doug Rose on September 25, 2010, 07:15:11 AM
Quote from: easytiger on September 24, 2010, 11:06:39 PM
My one and only.  I'm a fool for a phone with vents.  Recently outfitted with a genuine Extensicord, still looking for information or photos of original AE40 line/mounting cords (see referenced thread)...baby could use a cord.

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=3414.0 (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=3414.0)


Absolutely stunning! What is the story behind it? Did you reurb this? Breathtaking....Doug
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: easytiger on September 25, 2010, 02:41:16 PM
Quote from: Kidphone on September 25, 2010, 07:15:11 AM
Quote from: easytiger on September 24, 2010, 11:06:39 PM
My one and only.  I'm a fool for a phone with vents.  Recently outfitted with a genuine Extensicord, still looking for information or photos of original AE40 line/mounting cords (see referenced thread)...baby could use a cord.

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=3414.0 (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=3414.0)


Absolutely stunning! What is the story behind it? Did you reurb this? Breathtaking....Doug

Thanks, Doug...although, other than recognizing its virtues and some recent attention to a detail or two, it's pretty much the way I found it.

I bought it at a vintage shop in the Mountain West when I was a struggling college student 20 years ago.  I grew up in a very remote small town in Mountain Bell/Western Electric territory.  I'd never seen anything like it, but I knew it was..."special".  I forget the price – other than it was more than I had.  I think probably somewhere moderately over $100 or so.  I know I went without a couple meals and a tank of gas or two or something to swing it at the time.

I had no idea what a Automatic Electric was.  Growing up, everyone I knew had the standard WE 500 or 554 - except one fancy family in town who had a Princess, and one lady with a funny-lookin' blue phone I now know was a stowaway AE80 (where that came from in remote Western Electric territory I have no idea!)

It's moved many times with me – including across the country.  It's always worked, except for my chronic struggles with the rattle of a ring it always had.  Finding this forum a couple months ago, I learned it had a frequency ringer of course (something else about which I had no idea).  So, save the recent straight-line ringer and Extensicord replacement, and addition of the pick-up bar, she remains as she always was.  It has what I believe is a WE line/mounting cord, so that's my next replacement to tackle.

Never out to have "a collection", back in those college days I found myself picking-up sets I found in thrift stores and garage sales here and there (hard-luck $7.00 Princesses or low-ball 302's, etc.) – just things I liked or that were outside of my growing-up experience.  My friends thought I was crazy, of course... sorta  like the Barbara Mandrell "I Was Country When Country Wasn't Cool" story...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN50ZU6jVwM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN50ZU6jVwM)

Now I'm finding some gems (although needing attention) in 20 year old storage boxes that I forgot I even had that will be some good Winter projects to get (as Matchbox 20 would say) "Back 2 Good" .  In the mix a ivory 354 (vents!), a black Princess, and a beat-up 1937 manual metal 302 that has all the elements including the rear hand hold vents!  Who knew!?   Did I mention I'm a fool for vents?  ;)

I'm most drawn to the designs of the AE40 or 302/354 era – designs that have some actual architectural elements in them. 

Wow, I'm sorry... I got off in the weeds.  Somewhere in there is my Red Phone story...

Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on September 25, 2010, 03:04:36 PM
Easytiger:

Mine has a 1954 black rubber WE cord. From the Steve Hilsz collection. For convenience, I added a 283B plug. I keep it in the lower shelf of a bookcase, away from bright sunlight and fluorescent lamps.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Doug Rose on September 25, 2010, 06:20:18 PM
I go back and forth, which one do I like better, the Ivory or the Red. Sorry DEAD HEAT. These are two of the most amazing phones I have ever seen. You both should be very proud. I am a tad envious, but just a tad! Great phones....Doug
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: AE_Collector on September 25, 2010, 11:34:57 PM
Hey, you guys have posted pictures of my entire colored 40 collection...a red one and an Ivory one. Only problem is that, as usual, yours blow mine out of the water...but I love them all the same.

Easytiger: I'd go for a black cloth 3 conductor AE cord for your red 40 since it is a black (isn't it?) ExtensiCord on the handset. I'm sure you can get a very nice "new" AECo cloth cord from Old phone Works (that's who is making Odis cords now isn't it?).

Of course you will then be looking for a black bakelite AECo mounting block for the end of the cord!

Terry
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: easytiger on September 26, 2010, 02:33:04 AM
Jorge:  I keep the red 40 right out in the room with me!  Especially after all those years without a straight-line, I like to hear her ring proper now.  Agreed,  no sun or fluorescents, though.

Checking further, the current line/mounting cord has no Western Electric or date markings on the retainers, so I guess maybe not a WE cord after all, but it sure looks like WE.  Nice fat black pliable rubber - long with red, green and yellow leads.  It's a good cord...it just seems a little out of place.

Terry:   Thanks for the suggestion...black cloth seems right.  I think Bingster also alluded to cloth probably being a more symmetrical pairing with the Extensicord in the original thread with my AE cord question.

P.S.  anybody have a black bakelite AECo mounting block? (Thanks alot, Terry!)  :-\
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on September 26, 2010, 11:13:01 AM
A mounting block like this?
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: AE_Collector on September 26, 2010, 11:39:08 AM
that's the one...well the back of one at least...looks like the cover for it went AWOL as well.

See the little rectangular slot towards the top edge of the back of the block as pictured? I have at least one of these blocks that has the two little mounting screws stored in this slot with clear (now badly yellowed) tape over the back of this part of the block so the installer can see that they are there.

There is an older style of AECo set block as well. It is rectangular shaped rather than square as Jorge's is.

Jorge: That block looks pretty beat up, how about polishing it up as well as the phone that it's attached to and send it the whole pile of junk to me to play with?

Terry
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on September 26, 2010, 03:50:21 PM
On its way!!!  ;D ;D ;D

PS: I just checked it. Sorry, I already changed the plug.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Dave F on May 28, 2018, 09:00:27 PM
My latest red phone is this awesome 3504B AUTOVON set with G4 shoulder-rest handset.

DF
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: stub on May 29, 2018, 12:49:52 AM
AE 183's ,
               Here's my reds.  stub
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on May 29, 2018, 01:11:19 AM
I can't believe that this thread is back in gear after sitting idle for 8 years.

The other day I was giving some of these old phones a nice cleanup, and about the only thing that has changed is the color of the brass bells: some of them have turned a tad darker.

Some of the plastic cords have developed sort of a sticky sweat that requires the entire cord to be scrubbed clean again.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: AE_Collector on May 29, 2018, 02:18:41 AM
Whoever says that AE didn't date their phones hasn't seen Stubs red 183!
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on May 29, 2018, 02:34:12 AM
The evidence is very clear: 2009
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: RotarDad on May 29, 2018, 10:27:32 AM
Back to Dave's new Autovon for a moment - awesome condition, even the the coil cord!  Was this restored, or is that how it was found? What's the find story on this one?  I never noticed until now that these sets had the # button replaced with an A.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: paul-f on May 29, 2018, 12:38:59 PM
Quote from: RotarDad on May 29, 2018, 10:27:32 AM
Back to Dave's new Autovon for a moment - awesome condition, even the the coil cord!  Was this restored, or is that how it was found? What's the find story on this one?  I never noticed until now that these sets had the # button replaced with an A.

I agree, Paul. Dave's phone is a beauty, and it's a rare find.

There's some background on the key assignments and references to learn more on the following page:

  http://www.paul-f.com/weAutovon.html

(http://www.paul-f.com/weAutovon.html)Here are photos of a red TA-814/G secure phone, like the one shown on that page.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: SunriseEarth on February 06, 2019, 05:27:22 AM
I need more red phones in my collection, but I have two good ones.   I recently acquired a 2502B.  I also have a 2702BM. 
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: kleenax on February 06, 2019, 08:36:50 AM
Ok, ok, I will bite on this!  Here are some of the RED that I have created cause I love RED too!!
Oh wait; I did NOT create the Kellogg 1000 in RED; it's an original; only one that I have ever seen.


(http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=20051.0;attach=200571;image)

(http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=20051.0;attach=200573;image)

(http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=20051.0;attach=200575;image)

(http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=20051.0;attach=200576;image)

(http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=20051.0;attach=200579;image)
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: tubaman on February 06, 2019, 01:56:50 PM
Here's my contribution to the redness.
1. East German 'Alpha'- 1984
2. GPO 706L - 1965
3. ATM L11566A3 - 1957 (all but identical to a GPO 332 except for the AE style dial).
:)
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Key2871 on February 06, 2019, 02:20:35 PM
Some very nice RED phone's to be seen.. mine is in my avatar, and in my shed hanging around waiting for me and spring.. I don't have any other shots at the moment..
Yea, I really need to change that.. but my favorite color is red too. My old car was red, my wife drives it now and my truck is Red. I drive that baby every day.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: HarrySmith on February 06, 2019, 02:29:45 PM
All my Red phones are Black!
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Russ Kirk on February 06, 2019, 08:48:09 PM
My Red rotary Grillo
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Russ Kirk on February 06, 2019, 08:50:27 PM
My Red Touchtone Grillo.  Did they call it touchtone in Italy?
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Russ Kirk on February 06, 2019, 08:52:43 PM
My red Stromberg Carlson 1543
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Dan/Panther on February 07, 2019, 01:05:49 PM
Did Western Electric make a Peking red 500  ? Seems I've heard some referred to as Coke Red. The photos always look Red but in person they are almost a maroon color.

D/P
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Russ Kirk on February 07, 2019, 07:24:20 PM
WE 2564
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Russ Kirk on February 08, 2019, 07:06:43 PM
a British GPO 706F Mark 2; the color is called Lacquer Red (or colour in Great Britain).

Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Russ Kirk on February 08, 2019, 07:14:20 PM
Still rings today!  Made by the "The Steel Stamping Co. Lorrain Ohio"  Its a toy about 3/4 the size of a 500 set.

Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: KaiserFrazer67 on March 02, 2019, 12:07:57 AM
Hello everyone; Phone-itis is back in my system after about a year's hibernation...  ::) ...and I finally got my own red phone!!  :)

Here's my latest eBay find; a code-correct 1972 Automatic Electric Type 80 in Garnet Red.  Didn't take much to restore and clean up; works perfectly.

I also love red phones (although the really old ones are a bit beyond my reach financially), and growing up with the General System/GTE serving my area, I'm quite partial to AE phones.  The 80s seem to have a nicer, more pleasant overall shape than the WE 500s, although that is merely my opinion.

I do love the shade of red on the AE phones; they seem to be less to the orange side and more of a deep ruby color.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: AE_Collector on March 11, 2019, 02:13:11 PM
AE 80 in Garnet Red
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: AE_Collector on March 11, 2019, 02:14:59 PM
AE 982 Wall Stylelines in Candy Apple Red. Rotary or Touch Call!
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Gary Millam on March 11, 2019, 02:54:57 PM
My Red WE 302
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: paul-f on March 11, 2019, 06:40:17 PM
A few red sets...

Zenith discussion: http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=11680.0 (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=11680.0)


[edit - corrected link]
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: paul-f on March 11, 2019, 06:44:50 PM
A few more ...
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Dan/Panther on March 12, 2019, 01:05:22 PM
Paul, is the Zenith phone a WE 500, and is it Coke Red, not the dark red like most.
What year is it.

D/P
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: paul-f on March 12, 2019, 06:41:48 PM
Quote from: Dan/Panther on March 12, 2019, 01:05:22 PM
Paul, is the Zenith phone a WE 500, and is it Coke Red, not the dark red like most.
What year is it.
Dan,

It's not a 500. They used an ITT housing for their custom circuitry.

BTW, I corrected the forum link above. That topic shows a few more photos and some background. Still looking for more info.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: HowardPgh on March 13, 2019, 07:45:49 PM
Is this AE buttset red enough to qualify for the Red Phones thread?
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: KaiserFrazer67 on March 13, 2019, 08:16:48 PM
Quote from: HowardPgh on March 13, 2019, 07:45:49 PM
Is this AE buttset red enough to qualify for the Red Phones thread?
Yeah, I would say so!  That is a very cool phone, Howard.  I see AE linemans' sets pop up occasionally on eBay, but I've never bit.  Being an AE enthusiast, I just might have to break down and get one sometime.  Do they still work (dial out & receive calls) if hooked up to a POTS line?
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Dave F on March 18, 2019, 06:23:11 PM
More red eye candy:  1565HK Keyset with 3A Speakerphone (666B Transmitter and 760A Speaker).

DF
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Doug Rose on March 18, 2019, 08:07:41 PM
Red Kellogg ITT Payphone I got at Brimfield in September 2018 for $55.....Doug
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Butch Harlow on March 18, 2019, 08:32:51 PM
I have a red phone. This thread has some real beauties in it. So, I figured this one belonged here.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: KaiserFrazer67 on March 18, 2019, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: Doug Rose on March 18, 2019, 08:07:41 PM
Red Kellogg ITT Payphone I got at Brimfield in September 2018 for $55.....Doug
Thanks for sharing that, Doug!  That is a VERY cool payphone.  I'd forgotten that there were compact payphones like that around.  I'd seen some in my youth, but I'd forgotten about them until you posted that.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Doug Rose on March 19, 2019, 09:32:11 AM
Another Red I have, a really cool AE 34 ...Doug
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: kleenax on March 19, 2019, 10:33:50 PM
Quote from: Doug Rose on March 19, 2019, 09:32:11 AM
Another Red I have, a really cool AE 34 ...Doug
Looks painted; is it?
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Doug Rose on March 20, 2019, 10:33:25 AM
Ray....it is painted, nice paint...but painted. I got this from our firend Payphone Installer,  Jim Engle...Doug
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: FABphones on April 16, 2019, 12:02:45 PM
BT Trimphone 8766, 1982.

(Schhh, don't tell the Monochrome Phones with Sepia Tones....)
:)
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: KaiserFrazer67 on April 16, 2019, 04:36:09 PM
Quote from: Russ Kirk on February 08, 2019, 07:14:20 PM
Still rings today!  Made by the "The Steel Stamping Co. Lorrain Ohio"  Its a toy about 3/4 the size of a 500 set.
Russ, if you examine the design of the toy closely, especially the front of the handset carriage, it looks like they took the contour straight from the AE 80!  8)
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Russ Kirk on April 16, 2019, 06:58:59 PM
Quote from: KaiserFrazer67 on April 16, 2019, 04:36:09 PM
Russ, if you examine the design of the toy closely, especially the front of the handset carriage, it looks like they took the contour straight from the AE 80!  8)

I do see the resemblance to the AE 80. 


>>>>Edit<<<<  Comparison photos from this thread added to post. >>>>Edit<<<<
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Jim Stettler on April 19, 2019, 10:05:56 AM
Red North Galion desk set. Not mine but a nice phone.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Doug Rose on April 19, 2019, 11:53:09 AM
and it had a hefty price as well....Doug
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: HowardPgh on April 20, 2019, 05:38:46 PM
I would like to add my red Contempra to the red phone thread. This one is 50 years old.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: pdxjim911 on April 22, 2019, 03:28:46 PM
Here is my red phone collection:
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: FABphones on May 20, 2019, 05:38:21 AM
Red Trimphones don't come up for sale very often, so I was quite surprised to find the matching two tone red rotary cousin to my recent find (reply 113 above) so quickly.

Shown on photo one, and on photo two alongside its cousin:
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: ..... on May 20, 2019, 08:37:48 AM
What a real eye catcher, I really like the pair together. When did they stop issuing the Trimphone?
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: phonium on May 23, 2019, 06:54:48 PM
A red french phone, wall phone, WE 500, WE 2500
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: andre_janew on May 23, 2019, 08:08:04 PM
Here is my red 500 that is two different shades of red:
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: ..... on May 23, 2019, 09:01:58 PM
Some of my red phones.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: andre_janew on May 24, 2019, 08:04:50 PM
Here is a red manual 500:
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: phonium on May 27, 2019, 04:00:01 PM
A red trimline
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Doug Rose on May 27, 2019, 04:07:54 PM
Red Connecticut Toaster Phone I picked a few months ago. It was a military phone and came with the black dial and black cords. Handset is Red thermoplastic and the base was factory painted...Doug
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Pourme on May 27, 2019, 04:42:10 PM
~

That red space saver belongs here as well, Doug.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Doug Rose on May 28, 2019, 08:03:49 AM
Quote from: Pourme on May 27, 2019, 04:42:10 PM
~

That red space saver belongs here as well, Doug.
thanks Benny....here it is
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: andre_janew on June 03, 2019, 07:07:32 PM
Here are a couple of pictures of my WE 2500DM:
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Key2871 on June 10, 2019, 04:06:23 PM
My favorite color as well, here's my two..
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: HowardPgh on June 17, 2019, 09:56:56 PM
My newest addition A touchtone Ericofon.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: mazda_matt on June 25, 2019, 09:35:16 AM
Painted Automatic Electric 1A with Type 32 Subset
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Babybearjs on June 26, 2019, 02:01:24 AM
I need that red 564 to go with my 2564.... still waiting!!!
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: LM Ericsson on July 17, 2019, 11:39:31 PM
1987 Citesa "Heraldo"
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: monophone_lover on May 15, 2020, 05:35:14 PM
Here are a few red phones
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: JorgeAmely on May 16, 2020, 01:07:51 AM
Can't believe it was ten years ago I last posted on this thread. Let's keep this one alive. There are plenty of good looking red phones out there.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: KaiserFrazer67 on July 15, 2020, 01:22:56 AM
Well, I've got a "new" red phone with which I can keep this thread alive:

I haven't seen any red Automatic Electric Type 90s on here (unless one of the older pages on this thread had one where the photo links died), so I'm submitting my newest acquisition.

This is actually a recent eBay find with different plastic.  Around three years ago, I happened to purchase some very good NOS Garnet Red AE 90 plastic, complete with handset and caps, dial face plate, and long coiled handset cord, from an eBay seller in (of all places) Saukville, Wisconsin.  I have not been able to re-trace this seller or find out whatever happened to her (IIRC, the seller was female).  She had a whole mess of NOS and good-condition Automatic Electric plastic and other AE parts.  At about the same time, I had also bought from her the NOS white plastic parts with which I "re-skinned" our badly faded Gardenia White AE90 kitchen phone shown here: http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=17876.msg184605#msg184605 (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=17876.msg184605#msg184605)  Perhaps some of you know who this seller was.  I would have liked to have purchased more AE stuff from her while she still had it.

In any event, after getting this really nice complete Garnet Red AE90 "kit"; all it needed was an actual phone.  Well, a good working AE90 with a straight-line ringer made itself available on eBay a couple of weeks ago.  It is dated 1961 and has the compensator rheostat inside.  The chassis was marked for Camellia Pink (code 18), but it had either ivory or VERY badly faded white plastic; about the same kind of fading as the original white plastic had on my original kitchen AE90.  I did decide to switch out the dial rather than clean and restore it, as it had an SATT dial and I am not a fan of them (and furthermore, I was anxious to find out if the thing actually worked!).  I "borrowed" a dial from one of my beige AE80s (the not-quite-as-nice one pictured here:  http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=17876.msg184650#msg184650 (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=17876.msg184650#msg184650) ), and installed it in this phone.  After hooking up a black test lead (pictured sticking out of the right side), I found it works perfectly on my good ol' POTS line as it should.  Calls out, receives calls, and rings just fine.  Now all I have to do is find a place to put it...   ;D

Enjoy!!
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: ..... on July 15, 2020, 05:19:56 AM
I've added this clear Ruby Red AE80 to my collection.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: KaiserFrazer67 on July 15, 2020, 09:33:00 AM
Quote from: Duffy on July 15, 2020, 05:19:56 AM
I've added this clear Ruby Red AE80 to my collection.
Where did you manage to find the clear red plastic (and the clear handset, for that matter)?  Or did the phone come with it?  I see that it has the later GTE-era AE branding on the carrying handle.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: ..... on July 15, 2020, 10:21:47 AM
Quote from: KaiserFrazer67 on July 15, 2020, 09:33:00 AM
Where did you manage to find the clear red plastic (and the clear handset, for that matter)?  Or did the phone come with it?  I see that it has the later GTE-era AE branding on the carrying handle.

It's all in here: http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=24034.0 (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=24034.0)
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Dan/Panther on July 16, 2020, 02:11:07 PM
Quote from: JorgeAmely on May 16, 2020, 01:07:51 AM
Can't believe it was ten years ago I last posted on this thread. Let's keep this one alive. There are plenty of good looking red phones out there.
That's what I love about this forum, people look back at old posts.
I love red phones, I don't know how I missed Duffy's post. That's RED. I would love to have a 500 like that.
D/P
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Key2871 on July 16, 2020, 06:25:56 PM
I agree Dan, that's a sweet looking phone. But to have a 500 set in that color, even if the had set were red like that or clear, that would be real nice.
Hey Ray, how bout something like that!
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: Dan/Panther on July 17, 2020, 03:43:38 PM
Absolutely, Ray Where are you.
D/P
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: ..... on July 18, 2020, 06:12:55 AM
I have one of Ray's clear AE handsets. Here it is compared with the real clear AE handset. Ray's copy is the lower one.
Title: Re: Red Phones
Post by: kleenax on August 11, 2020, 08:52:29 PM
Quote from: Dan/Panther on July 17, 2020, 03:43:38 PM
Absolutely, Ray Where are you.
D/P
I'm here!  Sorry, up here where I am sheltering (since March 17th), there is VERY little internet other than a hotspot on cellphone and it doesn't do well.
I will be working on completing the Clear AE handset and a Clear AE80 & 90 body. Just can't do a number ring (yet).
Title: Re: Red Phones (Happy Valentine's Day)
Post by: allnumbedup on February 13, 2021, 11:52:07 AM
Obviously I am way behind on my phone 'to-do' list.  I know the Valentine's date stamp has been well described before:
http://www.vintagerotaryphones.com/valentines-day-western-electric-model-554/

My Valentine's Phone is the 1956 500 with the Oxford Grey cords in the middle.  This phone was a lucky ebay BIN without inside pictures.  This 500 and the 554 with the matt silver hook next to it in the back are the keepers for my collection. Both are all date matching. Three of the others are ABS on old bases, one of the soft ones was from a forum member and had a smashed side in shipping now repaired.  All these were on-line purchases $0 (insured smashed one) to $38 while I was learning how to spot an old soft plastic one.  The keepers were $65 for the 554 and $76 for the Valentine's phone including shipping: the others I plan to restore to fund my habit when all parts and time align.