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Telephone Restoration Projects and Techniques / Re: What is this phone? And th...
Last post by countryman - Today at 07:09:53 AMWhat RDPipes said.
Chances are good the phone would ring happily away if you connected it to an analog phone line. Dialing out may only work if the line still accepts pulse dialing. Be prepared that the transmitter (microphone capsule) might have degraded, resulting in low volume and noise on the other side of the line. Replacement capsules should be available. To unscrew the mouthpiece it may be required to push an awl or other small tool into the tiny hole on the side of the mouthpiece to unlock a spring mechanism.
The crack in the zamak shell is not an easy fix, I'd suggest to apply a small amount of super glue on the inside, then press the crack together e.g. with a strap wrench.
The phone in my avatar picture is a German W48 from the same period.
Chances are good the phone would ring happily away if you connected it to an analog phone line. Dialing out may only work if the line still accepts pulse dialing. Be prepared that the transmitter (microphone capsule) might have degraded, resulting in low volume and noise on the other side of the line. Replacement capsules should be available. To unscrew the mouthpiece it may be required to push an awl or other small tool into the tiny hole on the side of the mouthpiece to unlock a spring mechanism.
The crack in the zamak shell is not an easy fix, I'd suggest to apply a small amount of super glue on the inside, then press the crack together e.g. with a strap wrench.
The phone in my avatar picture is a German W48 from the same period.
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Telephone Restoration Projects and Techniques / Re: What is this phone? And th...
Last post by RDPipes - Today at 06:31:12 AMQuote from: Elcjn4 on Today at 04:23:55 AMOmgosh Thank you! Now I know where to start.. I don't know if I should send it off to be repaired. So it will work in my home ( or IF it would) or just leave it as is... I'd love to hear it ring a ding! I like the "earthing"button it makes me want to put people on hold.. HA! Is your pic a type of this phone too?
Hello and welcome. Restoring your phone to its former glory will take many hours and elbow grease and expertise just to restore it aesthetically, being there's a pretty bad crack in its case but, it can be done where it would be invisible. It shouldn't be much trouble getting it's insides cleaned up and back to working but, it could be an adventure not to mention costly to have all this done with the hopes of not having to replace faulty parts. I think it's best for you to learn how to work on these telephones and others yourself, because you'll not only gain irreplaceable knowledge but, gain money in your pocket from not paying someone else to restore the phone. There are many (as you can see) articles explaining techniques of repairing and restoring finishes etc. on the forum. It's an endless bank of information for anyone wanting to work on and collect telephones.
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Telephone Restoration Projects and Techniques / Re: What is this phone? And th...
Last post by Elcjn4 - Today at 04:23:55 AMOmgosh Thank you! Now I know where to start.. I don't know if I should send it off to be repaired. So it will work in my home ( or IF it would) or just leave it as is... I'd love to hear it ring a ding! I like the "earthing"button it makes me want to put people on hold.. HA! Is your pic a type of this phone too?
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Auction Talk / Re: ATEA Model 51
Last post by Elcjn4 - Today at 04:07:38 AM #5
Telephone Restoration Projects and Techniques / Re: What is this phone? And th...
Last post by countryman - Today at 02:17:55 AMThis is a Belgian ATEA model 51: https://www.matilo.eu/the-phones/1926-1945-bakelite-ww2/atea-model-50-51/
The button is an earthing button. It connects one of the line wires to a third, earthed wire. This system was often used in European private branch exchanges, e.g. as a signal to toggle between inside and outside lines.
The Belgian telephone industry, located in Antwerp ("Anvers" in French, as seen on the label) stayed with this pre-war design for a while. A very similar type was also used by the Belgian state phone co. RTT. The quality of the instruments was good, while the look was quite conventional. When they were eventually decommissioned in the 1970ies, they were bought up by trading firms to be sold as "antique phones" in North America as well as parts of Europe. Often the black paint was stripped and the metal shell was copper plated for an even more "antique" look. This, and the neat metal handle of the RTT models brought them the nickname "Belgian Kettle"
Others were decorated with ornamental stickers reading "Bell mfg. co.", even if the were made by a competitor.
Your phone still has its original look what makes it somewhat rare on the international market.
The button is an earthing button. It connects one of the line wires to a third, earthed wire. This system was often used in European private branch exchanges, e.g. as a signal to toggle between inside and outside lines.
The Belgian telephone industry, located in Antwerp ("Anvers" in French, as seen on the label) stayed with this pre-war design for a while. A very similar type was also used by the Belgian state phone co. RTT. The quality of the instruments was good, while the look was quite conventional. When they were eventually decommissioned in the 1970ies, they were bought up by trading firms to be sold as "antique phones" in North America as well as parts of Europe. Often the black paint was stripped and the metal shell was copper plated for an even more "antique" look. This, and the neat metal handle of the RTT models brought them the nickname "Belgian Kettle"
Others were decorated with ornamental stickers reading "Bell mfg. co.", even if the were made by a competitor.
Your phone still has its original look what makes it somewhat rare on the international market.
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Vendors, Vendor Services: Offerings, Experiences and Feedback / Im new here help with a full r...
Last post by Elcjn4 - Today at 02:02:59 AMI don't collect phones..but I find them oh so much fun. My dad gifted me an old rotary phone and I'd like to have it restored.. any suggestions? I don't want to ruin the phone by having it repaired by the wrong co. I don't even know what kind of phone it is, I posted pics on a different topic.. Any info is greatly appreciated... Thanks and boy some of you have some REALLY cool phones... Maybe I DO collect them now HA
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Telephone Restoration Projects and Techniques / What is this phone? And that b...
Last post by Elcjn4 - Today at 12:57:23 AMHi I'm EJ from ABQ NM
Hello everyone!
I received a phone from my dad. Other than its a black rotary, (with a cute lil button in front for who knows what?! Party line?) That's all the info I know! I've tried Google lens.. but nada! If anyone has any info about it, I'd love to know/ learn more. Also, can this phone still be used? I have a landline in my home but the phone has a cut off cord. Thanks
Anyone know full restorers? I'm brand new so I'm looking through posts.. THANKS AGAIN
Hello everyone!
I received a phone from my dad. Other than its a black rotary, (with a cute lil button in front for who knows what?! Party line?) That's all the info I know! I've tried Google lens.. but nada! If anyone has any info about it, I'd love to know/ learn more. Also, can this phone still be used? I have a landline in my home but the phone has a cut off cord. Thanks
Anyone know full restorers? I'm brand new so I'm looking through posts.. THANKS AGAIN
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New Member Introductions / New member
Last post by Elcjn4 - Today at 12:08:42 AMHi I'm EJ from ABQ NM
Hello everyone!
I received a phone from my dad. Other than its a black rotary, that's all the info I have! I've tried Google lens.. but nada! If anyone has any info about it, I'd love to know/ learn more. I don't know if it's anything special... but it's special to me!
Also, can I still use this phone? I have a landline in my home but the phone has a cut off cord. Thanks guys! Um now to figure out how to post a picture.. ?
Hello everyone!
I received a phone from my dad. Other than its a black rotary, that's all the info I have! I've tried Google lens.. but nada! If anyone has any info about it, I'd love to know/ learn more. I don't know if it's anything special... but it's special to me!
Also, can I still use this phone? I have a landline in my home but the phone has a cut off cord. Thanks guys! Um now to figure out how to post a picture.. ?
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Telephone Restoration Projects and Techniques / Re: Questions About Using Rota...
Last post by ka1axy - Today at 12:02:31 AMAlso...the Telo, to my knowledge does not do pulse dialling. At least, it didn't when I got mine...possibly the firmware has been upgraded since then. The ringing generator has a fairly weak output current, could only ring one or two of my "genuine Bell" phones.
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Telephone Troubleshooting and Repair / Re: 3554 ISSUE
Last post by poplar1 - Yesterday at 11:04:32 PMQuote from: HarrySmith on Yesterday at 03:01:56 PMI connected the ringer to the same terminals I removed the original from. I did not even look at the terminals. I just checked and it is on L1 & L2.
The line is connected red & black to L1 & E2 and 2 white wires to GN & R, what are they for?
Network A has a gray wire from the hookswitch and K is empty? Should I move the ringer to A & K?
I never even looked at the wiring since it worked on my Panasonic.
It appears this is a different animal than I am used to working on. I count 7 wires off the hookswitch.
If there is no wire on K, then the capacitor is not in the circuit. Apparently, you have the ringer connected directly to Tip and Ring. Thus,the phone may busy out the line -- called "Ring trip" -- even if it appears to work sometimes.
The reason for the slate ( or gray) hook switch conductor on A is that this wire has continuity to the yellow hookswitch wire (L2 for example) when the phone is on-hook., So with a 2-wire ringer, one ringer wire connects to K and the other to the other side of the line (L1, for example).
Didn't you say the other 2 C4A ringer wires are connected together, but not on a terminal? If so, at least for a WE C4A, that is equivalent to a 2-wire C4B ringer
The confusion may be the poor choice of colors (Red, Slate-Red, Slate, and Black) for both a WE C4A ringer and a WE M1A (Princess) ringer or P1A Trimline ringer -- because they aren't internally the same. In a WE 500,the 2 ringer coils are wired independent of each other, and one wire from each coil connects to A and K. Since the other wire from each coil connects to L1 and L2, this completes the ringer path in series with the capacitor.
The slate and Slate-Red leads on a M1A or P1A ringer are merely taps, and are not used on non-party lines.