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Telephone Switching => Key Systems (Electronic, 1A2 etc) => Panasonic (PBX) Key Systems => Topic started by: DavePEI on March 01, 2012, 10:05:51 AM

Title: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: DavePEI on March 01, 2012, 10:05:51 AM
Hi All:

My Panasonic KX-T61610 arrived this morning along with its accompanying KT-T7030 phone.

After unpacking, I set it up, and tried turning it on. The line cord on the KT-7030 was bad, so I dug around for another 4 line powered cord.... I placed it on line 11 for programming. The handset cord also was bad, and the clear plastic overlay for the upper card was missing. Anyone have one of those? The card itself is there...

Anyway, once I did this, it booted up with the date showing on the screen and then I could dial in out of a POTS phone on line 12.

So, all seems to be in order with the exception of the plastic overlay for the phone itself.

The KSU itself seems to be in excellent condition, both operationally and appearance-wise. It has no yellowing, and is clean, and I have (Not yet, at least) found any operational problems. I have waited a long time for one of these, so am glad I took the step to purchase one.

Dave
Title: Re: Pamasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: Owain on March 01, 2012, 10:28:24 AM
Photocopy the card, or scan it into the computer and overtype it with your legends, print it out, laminate it, and cut out the buttonholes with a fine scalpel.
Title: Re: Pamasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: DavePEI on March 01, 2012, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: Owain on March 01, 2012, 10:28:24 AM
Photocopy the card, or scan it into the computer and overtype it with your legends, print it out, laminate it, and cut out the buttonholes with a fine scalpel.
Normally, that is what I would do, but there is nothing to hold it into the phone. Even if protected with lamination, the card will fall right off if the phone is moved. There is supposed to be a keyed plastic overlay on it which fits into slots on the phone to keep it in place.
Dave
Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: Phonesrfun on March 01, 2012, 11:36:14 AM
Even though they were a proprietary phone, there must have been a zillion of them made.  Some phone contracting company somewhere must have a pile of broken ones sitting in a warehouse.

Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: G-Man on March 01, 2012, 02:21:21 PM
Hi Dave-

Please check the model number of the telephone. It should be a number such as KX-T7030.

The cards and plastic overlays are available for most Panasonic key telephones.
Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: G-Man on March 01, 2012, 02:27:56 PM
Here are plastic overlays for the more common Pansonic keyphones:

http://labels.desi.com/category-exec/category_id/89/nm/Panasonic_KX_T/page_num/1

Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: DavePEI on March 01, 2012, 02:28:58 PM
Quote from: G-Man on March 01, 2012, 02:21:21 PM
Please check the model number of the telephone. It should be a number such as KX-T7030.

Sorry.. Typo

Dave
Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: DavePEI on March 01, 2012, 02:32:17 PM
Quote from: G-Man on March 01, 2012, 02:27:56 PM
Here are plastic overlays for the more common Pansonic keyphones:

http://labels.desi.com/category-exec/category_id/89/nm/Panasonic_KX_T/page_num/1
Thanks, I found them about 1/2 hour ago on Google...I still can't find the plastic programming overlay mentioned in the manual, but sure I will eventually.

Dave
Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived! - Call Restrictions?
Post by: DavePEI on March 02, 2012, 05:35:03 AM
Hi All:

Been playing with my KSU, and wondering if one of you who own one might be able to tell me a quick way to set up toll restrictions.

Looking at the manual, it looks to be pretty difficult - perhaps I am not seeing the full picture.

Where it is gong to be located in the museum is in what I like to call the 'playroom" - a room set up with active phones parents and kids alike can play with calling one another, and even accessing an outside line for local calls (in this case by prefixing the number by [9]. There will also be two payphones converted for POTS lines which they will be able to use for outgoing calls or calls to other phones in the room.

There are also active phones in the main areas of the museum, but most often I am with the visitors there, so abuse of calling privileges aren't a problem.

I would like to be able to block all outgoing toll calls through the KSU (i.e. all prefixed by 1)

Prior to now, this wasn't a problem as I didn't have the option of providing an outside line there with the Teltone TLS 3 and 5 line simulators I have there currently, but would like to at least consider allowing local calls.

Anyone have any ideas how to SIMPLY set up call restrictions? In going through the manual, I can't see a way to ban all calls prefixed by 1.

Dave
Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: Owain on March 02, 2012, 07:04:37 AM
Assign extensions to Service Class

Service Class 3 is "local and selected toll", service class 4 is "local only"

page 3-19 onwards in manual (http://www.scribd.com/doc/74656360/Panasonic-KX-T61610-Installation-Programming)

1. Dial 11 - Toll restriction will be displayed
2. Press NEXT - Enter Ext No will be displayed
3. Press NEXT - 11: Class 1 will be displayed and 1 will blink (this is for extn 11)
4. Press SELECT until desired class is displayed
5. Press MEMORY

Repeat steps 3-5 for other extensions.

Press END to return to initial program mode.

To set all extensions in one go press
11 NEXT * SELECT class MEMORY END

To set up to 10 area codes permitted for Class 3 dialling

1. Dial 12 - Class 3 area code
2. Press NEXT - Enter code no
3. dial 00 to 09 or NEXT
 - LCD will show 00:not stored or 00:555 if a code is stored
4. DIal area code with 3 digits
5. Press MEMORY
6. To advance to next memory location press NEXT
7. Repeat steps 4-6 for the other memory locations 00 to 09
8. To return to initial program mode press END

You may also need to do programming to 13: with or without 1 prefix for toll calls, and 14: allow dial 0 for operator or not.

To ban all operator calls

14 NEXT * SELECT enable or disable MEMORY END
Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived! - Call Restrictions?
Post by: DavePEI on March 02, 2012, 07:09:04 AM

Quote from: DavePEI on March 02, 2012, 05:35:03 AM
Hi All:

Been playing with my KSU, and wondering if one of you who own one might be able to tell me a quick way to set up toll restrictions.

Looking at the manual, it looks to be pretty difficult - perhaps I am not seeing the full picture.

Where it is gong to be located in the museum is in what I like to call the 'playroom" - a room set up with active phones parents and kids alike can play with calling one another, and even accessing an outside line for local calls (in this case by prefixing the number by [9]. There will also be two payphones converted for POTS lines which they will be able to use for outgoing calls or calls to other phones in the room.

There are also active phones in the main areas of the museum, but most often I am with the visitors there, so abuse of calling privileges aren't a problem.

I would like to be able to block all outgoing toll calls through the KSU (i.e. all prefixed by 1)

Prior to now, this wasn't a problem as I didn't have the option of providing an outside line there with the Teltone TLS 3 and 5 line simulators I have there currently, but would like to at least consider allowing local calls.

Anyone have any ideas how to SIMPLY set up call restrictions? In going through the manual, I can't see a way to ban all calls prefixed by 1.

Dave
Thanks!
Dave
Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: Owain on March 02, 2012, 07:11:41 AM
This (http://wedophones.com/Manuals/Panasonic/KX-T%20616/KX-T61610%20Installation%20&%20Programming%20&%20User%209893za.pdf) is a better manual, it has PDF bookmarks
Title: Re: Pamasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: Owain on March 02, 2012, 07:12:42 AM
Quote from: DavePEI on March 01, 2012, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: Owain on March 01, 2012, 10:28:24 AM
Photocopy the card, or scan it into the computer and overtype it with your legends, print it out, laminate it, and cut out the buttonholes with a fine scalpel.
Normally, that is what I would do, but there is nothing to hold it into the phone. Even if protected with lamination, the card will fall right off if the phone is moved. There is supposed to be a keyed plastic overlay on it which fits into slots on the phone to keep it in place.
Dave

a bit of blue-tak underneath will hold the laminated card in place.
Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: Owain on March 02, 2012, 07:18:31 AM
the programming overlay can be worked out by referring to page 3-2 of the manual which details which buttons do what in programming mode.
Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: DavePEI on March 02, 2012, 07:20:16 AM
Quote from: Owain on March 02, 2012, 07:18:31 AM
the programming overlay can be worked out by referring to page 3-2 of the manual which details which buttons do what in programming mode.
Yes, I noticed that. I am thinking of marking those re-assigned during programming right on the phone below the affected buttons.

Dave
Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: Owain on March 02, 2012, 05:33:30 PM
Slightly off-topic, but does your Panasonic show where it was made?

It was announced today that Panasonic are closing PBX manufacture in South Wales (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-17231967) and moving to Vietnam. 160 jobs lost, after  140 jobs were cut at the Newport factory in 2009.

Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: DavePEI on March 02, 2012, 06:20:29 PM
Quote from: Owain on March 02, 2012, 05:33:30 PM
Slightly off-topic, but does your Panasonic show where it was made?

It was announced today that Panasonic are closing PBX manufacture in South Wales (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-17231967) and moving to Vietnam. 160 jobs lost, after  140 jobs were cut at the Newport factory in 2009.



On the front label, it says made in Japan..

Dave
Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: gpo706 on March 02, 2012, 08:37:24 PM
Now you just need a DSS console for ext 12 Dave...
Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived! - Call Restrictions?
Post by: AE_Collector on March 02, 2012, 08:51:02 PM
Quote from: DavePEI on March 02, 2012, 05:35:03 AM
I would like to be able to block all outgoing toll calls through the KSU (i.e. all prefixed by 1)

Don't forget to consider blocking "0" as well. "0" can be used to acess the operator and make a LD call and possibly 011 International calls.

Then there is "911". You have to carefully consider that one as blocking it could be bad but on phones in a museum where kids can play with them, 911 could easily be something that comes to mind for them to goof around with.

In most areas there is a charge for using "411" Directory Assistance as well.
Consumer Tip - Use a Payphone for FREE Directory Assistance. (here at least, probably all of Canada, other areas unknown)

On Key Systems and PABX's in normal use we had to put special programming in that would allow 911 to be accessed by dialling 911 OR 9-911 to cover both possibilities.

Terry
Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived! - Call Restrictions?
Post by: DavePEI on March 03, 2012, 05:13:51 AM
Quote from: AE_collector on March 02, 2012, 08:51:02 PM
Quote from: DavePEI on March 02, 2012, 05:35:03 AM
I would like to be able to block all outgoing toll calls through the KSU (i.e. all prefixed by 1)

Don't forget to consider blocking "0" as well. "0" can be used to acess the operator and make a LD call and possibly 011 International calls.

Then there is "911". You have to carefully consider that one as blocking it could be bad but on phones in a museum where kids can play with them, 911 could easily be something that comes to mind for them to goof around with.

In most areas there is a charge for using "411" Directory Assistance as well.
Consumer Tip - Use a Payphone for FREE Directory Assistance. (here at least, probably all of Canada, other areas unknown)

On Key Systems and PABX's in normal use we had to put special programming in that would allow 911 to be accessed by dialling 911 OR 9-911 to cover both possibilities.

Terry

Not quite quite sure how to do that, but I am sure it can be done. Time to hit the manual again. It is very programmable, but like the Norstar, very confusing to learn how to program at first.....

Dave
Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: DavePEI on March 03, 2012, 05:29:49 AM
Quote from: gpo706 on March 02, 2012, 08:37:24 PM
Now you just need a DSS console for ext 12 Dave...

Well, I don't know if I would bother. I will likely only use the proprietary phone only when programming. Most of the phones connected will be display phones located in the room, all of them POTS.

All of a sudden in the spring, that room will come to life. By then, I should have two more payphones, and have the explosion proof phone, one of the Grays to mount there, plus the many 500, 2500, 554, 2554 phones in the room. Between the two TLS simulators and the KSU, I should be able to make pretty well everything there demonstratable. Oh, also, there is that room's Norstar KSU to the museum's main system. Every room has at least one of them, three for demos in the main area.

I wound up with the spare room when I had the office combined in the workshop in the kitchen of the museum building last spring - this was originally the old office. It gives me some much needed additional display area without opening up the top floor yet.

I will have to move many of the bagged 500s and 2500s upstairs into storage - at least my slaves will have to help me move them :-) Those that remain will be operational for demos, as will the newer payphones and explosion proof set.

Dave
Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: Owain on March 03, 2012, 08:57:03 AM
Quote from: DavePEI on March 02, 2012, 06:20:29 PM


On the front label, it says made in Japan..

The way things are going, that will be collectable in the future :-(
Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: gpo706 on March 03, 2012, 06:56:54 PM
Dave, you could use a 16 or 32 station DSS console as a unit in another room as a remote monitor to see which handsets are being used or accidentally left off hook.
Title: Re: Panasonic KX-T61610 Arrived!
Post by: DavePEI on March 03, 2012, 07:15:03 PM
Quote from: gpo706 on March 03, 2012, 06:56:54 PM
Dave, you could use a 16 or 32 station DSS console as a unit in another room as a remote monitor to see which handsets are being used or accidentally left off hook.
True enough...