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teka bb or dsk, looking for ID for this (Billion Dollar Brain, 1967)

Started by gpo706, May 30, 2010, 07:00:14 PM

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gpo706

Hi, could anyone ID this phone?

It's from the film "Billion Dollar Brain" (1967).

The scenes with it are set in Finland, but may be a prop phone from the studio on a set.

I seen a Swedish one very similar recently.

I have his London 300 series and would like to get one of these to "talk" to each other!

Here's the trail if you're interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa7rrLImVHQ
"now this should take five minutes, where's me screwdriver went now..?"

gpo706

sorry forgot the pics!
"now this should take five minutes, where's me screwdriver went now..?"

teka-bb

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Regards,

Remco, JKL Museum of Telephony Curator

JKL Museum of Telephony: http://jklmuseum.com/
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TCI Library: http://www.telephonecollectors.info/
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gpo706

That looks like the one.

So, in the film they used a "foreign" looking phone on the ste, so nothing to do with Finland then?

The different coloured caps on the handset look idenitical.
"now this should take five minutes, where's me screwdriver went now..?"

Phonesrfun

-Bill G

gpo706

Nice set Bill,

Does the dial centre card look far too large compared to my screengrab?

Otherwise looks pretty much the same.

In the movie Palmer peels off a "fake" dial sticker revealing the real number underneath, you can see it in the trailer.
"now this should take five minutes, where's me screwdriver went now..?"

Jim Stettler

I use to have a set of "toy" intercom phones that was a kid size version of this model.

Jim
You live, You learn,
You die, you forget it all.

LM Ericsson

It actually is an early Post FeTAp 611. check this http://feap61.de/
Regards,
-Grayson

dsk


GG


I'm going to say the one in the film is Spanish due to the dial being slightly smaller (three inch compared to slightly larger in the German ones), and the spacing of the holes being more similar to WE including the blank space at the right of the fingerwheel (which isn't visible in the photo but can be inferred). 

Here's one from Spain in a US publication for some weird reason:

http://electls.blogs.wm.edu/2010/11/01/ ( deal link 6-25-2018 )

And another (scroll down page for larger photo) on a Spanish auction site:

http://www.allcollection.net/telefono-sobremesa-telefonica~x25088228

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The one at DSK's second link looks like a prototype to me, because the dial is mounted slightly further up the face of the phone, and has a thicker fingerwheel, smaller holes, different fingerstop, and different arrangement for the number label retainer, than on any of the examples of the 611 that I have, or have seen before. 

At DSK's first link, if you scroll down you'll see a little ivory phone from Austria.  The thingie on the left below the dial is a cat's eye indicator that shows when the line is in use at another extension, by rotating a disc such that dark or other colored areas appear in the four little spaces you can barely make out in the middle (looks like a Radiation symbol but with four parts instead of three).  The button on the right is the usual ground button for call transfer.  I have a couple of these and the ringer has a really high pitch.  There is also a two-tone gray version of this, that matches the German 611 color scheme. 

Belgium also had a 611 variant, based on the ITT Standard Electric Lorenz design that later was adopted by Germany and elsewhere.  ITT called their model the "Assistant" set.   The Belgian variant has a dial that is almost identical to AE from the US (at least the one I have plus another I've seen), and there are little openings in the side of the housing similar to on an AE 43, for sound from the bells to get out.  If I'm not mistaken, the bells on that one sound almost identical to those on an AE 80. 

All of that (ITT, Germany, etc.) was the inspiration for Australia PMG to develop their 801 and 802 sets in the early 1960s, to replace the 332s and upgraded transmission "400" versions of the 332s. 

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That website link you posted to pch-consulting.com  has an absolutely enormous amount of information and illustrations, including quite a few I've never seen pictures of before and never even suspected existed.  Very useful for anyone interested in the global scene. 

LM Ericsson

Regards,
-Grayson

LM Ericsson

It is definitely one of these: (courtesy of feap61.de)
Regards,
-Grayson

GG



Early DBP 611s, nice.  Standard Electric Lorenz, the German ITT subsidiary, at least the top picture.