WE 302 (1939) No DIAL tone. However rings normally

[tallguy58]

I know it looks like a lot of work, but disconnect everything and start over being careful to match the colors of the wires as per the diagram in the photos.

[acolabrese]

I'm on it! If only the wires looked as colorful as they did back in '39. This is my 8th refurbish and I've never this issue.

Dial dated 4/37, what type do you think it is? 4H 2H etc..

[tallguy58]

Looks like your yellow and yellow-brown on the hookswitch are mixed up.??

[tallguy58]

4H

[poplar1]

2H has an external fingerstop so won't fit (without some creativity) in a 302. Also, the 2s are all painted black, not parkerized like this one. A 4H has loud clicks and a 5H is much quieter. Usually the dial type is stamped next to the governor. Both 4s and 5s were made in 1937 and both had the same terminal arrangement.

[tallguy58]

I thought W on the 4H was next to the governor and 5H had W next to the other terminals.

[acolabrese]

I switched the yellow brown as part of the hundred step trouble shooting process I have been going through. I'm starting from scratch and rewiring it fresh. If It doesn't work, I have a few other 302's I could use for parts. Luckily one of the others is also from '39.

Thanks for the dial feedback.. get it?. feedback.. Yeah, my wife didn't think that was funny either.

[poplar1]

I thought W on the 4H was next to the governor and 5H had W next to the other terminals.

Later 5H dials had the W moved next to the Y terminal. What I was attempting to say was that in 1937, 5H dials still had the same terminal arrangement as the 4H.

I think you are right that this one is a 4H because you can see the metal part of the pulse pawl. 5H used an all phenol pawl that year and in early 1938.

[poplar1]

I am totally confused by the diagrams Denis furnished. The one labeled "302/4 wires" is actually the bottom half of a modified 304. The other one is the top half of a 302. These 2 halves don't go together--- for either a 302 or a 304. Please disregard the one showing the bottom half with 101B induction coil and B2A ringer, which are not found in a 302.

[poplar1]

This is the correct diagram for the 302 base:

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=2761.msg37590#msg37590