Classic Rotary Phones Forum

Telephone Identification, Repair & Restoration => Telephone Troubleshooting and Repair => Topic started by: recrum on April 21, 2018, 12:03:36 PM

Title: AE 40 dial issue
Post by: recrum on April 21, 2018, 12:03:36 PM
What would make the dial of an AE40 jingle the bells on another AE40 downstairs?
Title: Re: AE 40 dial issue
Post by: AE_Collector on April 21, 2018, 01:14:20 PM
The phone with the jingling Bells needs some tension added to the bias spring on the Ringer. A fairly common occurrence where the spikes on the line while dialling causes a Ringer in another phone
to react.

Terry
Title: Re: AE 40 dial issue
Post by: recrum on April 21, 2018, 01:27:57 PM
Thanks Terry.  I'll give that a shot.  I have several rotary phones in use and only the one in the bedroom causes the one downstairs to tickle that's why I was leaning towards a dial issue on the bedroom phone.
Title: Re: AE 40 dial issue
Post by: AE_Collector on April 21, 2018, 02:50:17 PM
Others might have more ideas... but give that a try. There are two styles of AE ringers, the older larger low impedance and newer smaller high impedance. Each has a slightly different method of adding or subtracting bias.

Terry
Title: Re: AE 40 dial issue
Post by: recrum on April 21, 2018, 03:55:25 PM
mine is the older.
Title: Re: AE 40 dial issue
Post by: AE_Collector on April 21, 2018, 10:24:11 PM
Should be a long copper plated spring stretched across the length of the coils. One end attaches to a metal tab that can be bent one way or the other to increase or decrease the amount of bias. I think you want to increase the bias so bend the tab to make the spring stretch further.

Terry
Title: Re: AE 40 dial issue
Post by: recrum on May 24, 2018, 03:33:55 PM
Quote from: AE_Collector on April 21, 2018, 10:24:11 PM
Should be a long copper plated spring across the length of the coils. One endcattaches to a metal tab that can be bent one way or the other to increase or decrease the amount of bias. I think you want to increase the bias so bend the tab to make the spring stretch further.

Terry

Thanks Terry, this fixed it.  By chance does it also affect ringer volume, because unless I'm just imagining it, the phone seems louder now as well?
Title: Re: AE 40 dial issue
Post by: AE_Collector on May 24, 2018, 05:16:57 PM
I guess that could be a side effect of getting the bias set better. The only real way to adjust volume to some extent is slightly loosening the screws that hold the gongs and rotating them since the mounting holes are usually slightly off centre. I've opened up many phones to find electrical tape wrapped around the gongs to quiet them even further.

Terry
Title: Re: AE 40 dial issue
Post by: recrum on May 24, 2018, 05:36:49 PM
My fiance' has a different opinion, but I like it loud.  She jumps every time the phones ring. 
Title: Re: AE 40 dial issue
Post by: AE_Collector on May 24, 2018, 09:54:41 PM
Which would be okay if it weren't someone calling to see if your furnace ducts or carpet need cleaning!
Title: Re: AE 40 dial issue
Post by: poplar1 on May 24, 2018, 11:46:04 PM
Some diagrams say reversing the polarity should help eliminate bell tap.
Also, when the ringer is idle, the clapper should not touch either gong.
Title: Re: AE 40 dial issue
Post by: Babybearjs on May 25, 2018, 11:53:53 PM
If all the phones are the same brand... then I'd do the polarity thing.... if they are mixed, polarity first, then bias.... AE phones were notorious for this problem.... I always checked the polarity first, that normally solved the issue.... but staying with all 1 brand helps.... WE never caused this problem to my knowledge...