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Let it Snow...Let it Snow....Let it Snow ( and other weather events )

Started by Doug Rose, February 09, 2013, 08:34:13 AM

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TelePlay

Quote from: WEBellSystemChristian on November 19, 2016, 09:45:44 AM
Woke up to see this this morning...

This is fairly early for snowfall for us. Must be Global Warming...err...Climate Change... ;D

I'm sure John sees the same thing outside his window.

Yes, and the crack weather people on TV last night didn't see this coming either, or if they did, they forgot to mention the possibility of snow. I slept in to 9 AM so some of it was melted, not as thick, but I get the picture . . .

Snow before Thanksgiving usually means a long, cold winter and with sunspot activity decreasing over the next 5 years, we can expect colder, longer winters. I bought my current snow blower in 2005 and it got a lot of use the next few years before before the winters up here became mild for several years in a row. Climate change, as usual, from the nuclear forces adjusting that big thermostat in the sky (image courtesy of NASA) in its approximate 16 year cycle.

WEBellSystemChristian

Quote from: TelePlay on November 19, 2016, 10:54:09 AM
Yes, and the crack weather people on TV last night didn't see this coming either, or if they did, they forgot to mention the possibility of snow. I slept in to 9 AM so some of it was melted, not as thick, but I get the picture . . .

Snow before Thanksgiving usually means a long, cold winter and with sunspot activity decreasing over the next 5 years, we can expect colder, longer winters. I bought my current snow blower in 2005 and it got a lot of use the next few years before before the winters up here became mild for several years in a row. Climate change, as usual, from the nuclear forces adjusting that big thermostat in the sky (image courtesy of NASA) in its approximate 16 year cycle.

But you KNOW the weather channels are going to tell us today that they already saw this snow coming... ::)

http://journaltimes.com/news/local/prediction-winter-to-bring-vicious-cold-worse-than-last-year/article_8ce9955b-adb7-5613-ad5e-ba13b72c97ca.html
Christian Petterson

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TelePlay

I'm shocked. This is the text of that article. Lot of words to get to the heart of the reason behind the global cooling we will have for the next 5 to 6 years before the cycle turns upward and we get some solar warming.

Most of this is anecdotal and regional. Sunspots, or lack of them, control the globe in general which affects climate regionally based on the region, winds, currents, etc. Someone in the media actually said sun spots are the main cause of everything climate change related.  The biggest problem is not weather but ignorant "reporters."


"RACINE COUNTY — Last winter we learned that the term for more than one polar vortex is polar vortices, and based on one prediction, we might need to dust that term off once again this winter.

But get ready for a new term: "Refriger-Nation."

That's the name staff with the Old Farmer's Almanac already have bestowed on an area of the country — including southeastern Wisconsin and northern Illinois — they predict will be in a deep-freeze this winter. The 2015 edition of the Old Farmer's Almanac, released on Wednesday, predicts a colder, snowier winter from December through — likely — March.

"You folks are right on the edge of the icebox," Editor Janice Stillman said. "You guys will be much colder and snowier than much of the Midwest."

Just how cold is the weather they predict will descend on a swath of the "lower lakes" that descends from Milwaukee County south through Racine and Kenosha counties, into a chunk of northeastern Illinois, and eastward through a portion of Indiana and beyond?

"Vicious cold. Colder than last year is what I'm trying to tell you," Stillman said.

While the almanac predicts overall temperatures, it doesn't forecast events such as the polar vortices that shut down much of the region for days at a time last season.

Temperatures are predicted to be 3 degrees to 5 degrees below normal from November through March, Stillman said. But average temperatures in February will be slighter warmer than normal, she said, granting a little reprieve from the bone-chilling cold.

"If you consider temperatures in the 20s to be a reprieve," she said with a laugh.

According to the winter forecast, the average temperature in December is forecast at 28 degrees, 4 degrees colder than average. That average temperature dips to 23 degrees in January, which is 4 degrees below the average. But the average temperature rises to 28 degrees again in February, an increase of 1 degree warmer than the average, according to the Old Farmer's Almanac.

During the winter, February appears poised for the least snowfall, Stillman said. The prediction includes snow during the last 10 days of November, snow showers for five days before and during Christmas, around New Year's Eve and again in the second week of January, she ticked off the list.
Fall months crucial

National Weather Service meteorologist Marc Kavinsky said, through the end of November, both temperatures and precipitation are expected to be normal, though.

"At this point I can't give you a trend one way or another. If El Niño was going (on), I'd feel confident saying (winter could be) warmer," Kavinsky said, explaining that an El Niño pattern emerged earlier, and typically would bring warmer weather with it. But "now it's trending toward (a) normal winter."

El Niño is a disruption of the ocean-atmosphere system in the tropical Pacific, typically characterized by warmer-than-usual temperatures, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Traditionally, the Old Farmer's Almanac winter weather forecasts result in 80 percent accuracy rates. But Kavinsky said the next three months, September through November, will be crucial to determining how cold this winter might be.
How predictions are crafted

Almanac staff utilize three scientific disciplines to calculate their weather predictions: solar science, climatology and meteorology. Solar activity, especially sunspots, plays an important role in predicting the weather, Stillman said. Low solar activity has been an indicator of colder weather, and can occur for a period of years to decades, she said. The effects may last years to decades, as well.

"Sunspots appear every 11 years. You can follow it like a stock market wave," she explained. "Recently, we've been getting into the shallow valley-small hill cycle."

Such a high-and-low cycle of sunspots has an effect on our climate, specifically correlating to colder weather, Stillman said.

"The cycle is (now) the smallest it's been for 100 years. That's an indicator of extreme cold," she said. "We will enter a period — for possibly a few decades — of colder-than-normal temperatures."

This also could result in a warmer-than-average summer, but the almanac predicts a "near-normal" amount of rainfall in June, July and August."

DavePEI

Well, we finally got our first snow storm, and it was a doozer!

Sunday afternoon, it started snowing and blowing with winds up to 100+ kms/hour. It was supposed to come down mostly in rain, but somehow we fell on the cold side of the front.

Finally after 26 hours, our power is back on! It went out Sunday night at 6 p.m. and was off until about 1/2 hour ago. There were some 12,000 Maritime Electric Subscribers effected for most of the time due to a number of poles down and branches on the line. This covered most of the eastern end of PEI, and there were over 100 poles down.

When the power went out, Linda was at work at the Macphail Foundation homestead cooking one of their Christmas Dinners. The guests ate by candlelight, and Linda got stuck on their road by the heavy wet snow which weighed down the trees so they blocked the road. She was eventually rescued, and escorted home.

It was a chilly time, temps in the house dropping to about 14 deg. until I turned on the propane oven in the kitchen, which at least kept it from falling further.

The cats felt the cold to - indoor cats tend to get acclimatized to room temperature. Last night, several times, I awoke to find Bobbi and the baby, Lucky curled up in a ball, sharing their heat and licking each other. Amber wasn't far away, either. At one point last night, Lucky crawled under the blankets with me.

We all survived, of course, but sure is nice to feel the heat again! Obviously, no work got done in the Museum

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Babybearjs

we are finally getting some snow this year.... news says this last November was the DRYEST in over 75 years.... wow! no wonder we had such a nice thanksgiving!
John

Doug Rose

I agree with that 12/3 looking good in Mass....but cold....Doug
Kidphone

WEBellSystemChristian

Doug;

How do you keep your lawn so green?!? Around here, everyone's lawn has been dead for a month or so.
Christian Petterson

"Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right" -Henry Ford

Doug Rose

Quote from: WEBellSystemChristian on December 03, 2016, 12:35:55 PM
Doug;

How do you keep your lawn so green?!? Around here, everyone's lawn has been dead for a month or so.
Christian....I like my lawn like a like my phones......a labor of love....Doug
Kidphone

Pourme

Beautiful lawn, Doug.....I'm jealous....

I have a customer that has a beautiful lawn like that. He wouldn't tell me what he puts on it to get it that way. He said he got a recipe off of the internet and mixes it up. The only thing he would tell me is one of the ingredients is beer. I'm not certain if the beer goes on the lawn or in him...  ;)
Benny

Panasonic 308/616 Magicjack service

Phonesrfun

From what I see on the news, it looks like lots of people will be talking about snow soon.
-Bill G

Doug Rose

Plenty of fertilizer, insect and fungus control. Use plenty of lime. Irrigation is  must. No water no green lawn....costs a small fortune to keep the yard looking the way I want it.

Four grandkids for a sleepover.  I am too old for this!  Grampy
Kidphone

Pourme

Quote from: Doug Rose on December 03, 2016, 08:58:30 PM
Plenty of fertilizer, insect and fungus control. Use plenty of lime. Irrigation is  must. No water no green lawn....costs a small fortune to keep the yard looking the way I want it.

Four grandkids for a sleepover.  I am too old for this!  Grampy

You did a fine job, Doug.... it must give you tremendous satisfaction.
Benny

Panasonic 308/616 Magicjack service

TelePlay

The local weather nuts on TV are predicting 1-3" of snow later tonight and tomorrow morning. Looking at the live weather maps, it look bad a few hour ago but noticed as the snow go closer to Lake Michigan, it stopped - the Lake affect. However, I do think I will have to move some frozen water tomorrow for the first time this year. 'tis the season . . .  :-\

At least everyone in the south east will be getting some rain to knock the dust down. Everything on the map is moving to the east.