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Telephone Talk => Auction Talk => Topic started by: WEBellSystemChristian on April 12, 2014, 08:51:07 PM

Title: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on April 12, 2014, 08:51:07 PM
I've bought too much in the last few days, so I'm not going to get this one:

http://m.ebay.com/itm/141254372887
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on April 12, 2014, 08:53:42 PM
Never mind, the seller changed the listing to $29 starting bid.
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: Mr. Bones on April 12, 2014, 09:07:27 PM
A lot of times that I've seen auctions which offer both a starting bid, and BIN, as soon as a bid is placed, the BIN option goes away.

Best regards!
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: WesternElectricBen on April 12, 2014, 09:15:03 PM
Quote from: WEBellSystemChristian on April 12, 2014, 08:53:42 PM
Never mind, the seller changed the listing to $29 starting bid.

How would that work? It still says 25.00 with 1 bid.

Ben
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on April 12, 2014, 09:47:52 PM
Quote from: WesternElectricBen on April 12, 2014, 09:15:03 PM
Quote from: WEBellSystemChristian on April 12, 2014, 08:53:42 PM
Never mind, the seller changed the listing to $29 starting bid.

How would that work? It still says 25.00 with 1 bid.

Ben
Whoops, I meant to say $25.
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: poplar1 on April 12, 2014, 11:58:01 PM
Christian, do you recall how much the BIN was?

Ben, unless there is a reserve, if there is both a starting bid and a BIN now price, then once there is a bid, the BIN now price disappears, as Mr. Bones pointed out.

For example, a seller could start a phone at $25 minimum bid, and also offer a BIN of $48. If someone looks at it and decides $48 is too much, but thinks he'll go ahead and bid $33, then since he is the only bidder, it will show $25. If a second person bids $27.04, then it will jump to the next increment above $27.04 with proxy bidding, leaving the first bidder (who bid $33) as the high bidder for now.
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: WesternElectricBen on April 13, 2014, 12:01:23 AM
Poplar1, I believe the BIN price was $39.

I didn't know that the BIN price went away once someone bids, is that new?

Ben
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: poplar1 on April 13, 2014, 12:13:06 AM
It's been that way as long as I can remember. The only time the BIN price doesn't go away is if there is a reserve that hasn't yet been met.

Quote from: WesternElectricBen on April 13, 2014, 12:01:23 AM
Poplar1, I believe the BIN price was $39.

I didn't know that the BIN price went away once someone bids, is that new?

Ben
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: Scotophor on April 13, 2014, 12:14:32 AM
BIN price disappearing upon the first regular bid was once the only option. Now, as poplar1 wrote, if the seller sets a reserve price, the BIN stays until the reserve is met.
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: baldopeacock on April 13, 2014, 11:10:35 AM
If the original BIN was $39, the seller must be feeling pretty good.  It's bid up to $135 with 4+ days to go.
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: paul-f on April 13, 2014, 11:13:24 AM
Quote from: baldopeacock on April 13, 2014, 11:10:35 AM
If the original BIN was $39, the seller must be feeling pretty good.  It's bid up to $135 with 4+ days to go.

...and the first bidder who took away the BIN price to "get a bargain" is probably bummed.
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: TelePlay on April 13, 2014, 11:28:21 AM
Quote from: baldopeacock on April 13, 2014, 11:10:35 AM
It's bid up to $135 with 4+ days to go.

When I read this topic shortly after it was created, I seriously thought of turning this auction into a contest but after searching eBay for "sold" 10 button phones, it seemed the high end would be $110 to $120 so dropped the contest idea. Will be interesting to see what happens at snipe time, to see how high it goes, if it does.
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: WesternElectricBen on April 13, 2014, 11:56:27 AM
Dang, I should have gone for the 39 dollar BIN when I could have.

Ben
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: Mr. Bones on April 13, 2014, 12:14:33 PM
Sorry, Ben.

     I learned the same way, sadly. ;)

Best regards!
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: WesternElectricBen on April 13, 2014, 12:21:44 PM
Quote from: Mr. Bones on April 13, 2014, 12:14:33 PM
Sorry, Ben.

     I learned the same way, sadly. ;)

Best regards!

Ahhhh, it's okay. I was heavily thinking about buying it, but after I looked at how discolored it is, and the incorrect case, I though I'd try to bid and win it for less..

Ben
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: Dennis Markham on April 13, 2014, 12:50:34 PM
Quote from: WesternElectricBen on April 13, 2014, 12:21:44 PM
Ahhhh, it's okay. I was heavily thinking about buying it, but after I looked at how discolored it is, and the incorrect case, I though I'd try to bid and win it for less..

I may be missing something.  Why is the housing incorrect??
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: WesternElectricBen on April 13, 2014, 01:27:04 PM
Quote from: Dennis Markham on April 13, 2014, 12:50:34 PM
Quote from: WesternElectricBen on April 13, 2014, 12:21:44 PM
Ahhhh, it's okay. I was heavily thinking about buying it, but after I looked at how discolored it is, and the incorrect case, I though I'd try to bid and win it for less..

I may be missing something.  Why is the housing incorrect??

Notice how on the case, the Bell System logo is in a circle, if I remember correctly, up until 1970 they used the rectangle. Meaning, this is a post 1970 case.

Ben
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: Dennis Markham on April 13, 2014, 01:37:16 PM
Thanks Ben for the education.
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: Fabius on April 13, 2014, 07:14:06 PM
Why would a post 1970 case be made for a 10 button TT pad? Unless the face plate is covering up something? Thanks.
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: Mr. Bones on April 13, 2014, 07:31:17 PM
Quote from: Fabius on April 13, 2014, 07:14:06 PM
Why would a post 1970 case be made for a 10 button TT pad? Unless the face plate is covering up something? Thanks.
My guess would be that the cases were the same, and the face plate, and keypad determined whether 10, or 12 button. Could be mistaken; wouldn't be the first time. ;D

Best regards!
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: paul-f on April 13, 2014, 08:07:40 PM
Good guess.

When they ran out of 10-button faceplates, they used 12-button faceplates with an apparatus blank to fill the two unused holes.
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: TelePlay on April 18, 2014, 04:59:17 PM
Sold for $132.50 plus $21 shipping. 3 bidders and 4 bids.

Item received no new, higher, bids in the with just short of 4 days left in the 5 day auction.

Market price reached early on in the auction, I guess.
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: JimH on April 18, 2014, 07:05:16 PM
Quote from: Fabius on April 13, 2014, 07:14:06 PM
Why would a post 1970 case be made for a 10 button TT pad? Unless the face plate is covering up something? Thanks.
When I was a kid we switched to touch tone phones about 1974.  Two 2500s and one (obviously refurbished) 1500.  It was before anyone needed the # or * key, so no one complained.  I remember wondering why one was missing those keys.  It had a 10 button faceplate, though, no "blanks" in it.
Title: Re: Pink 1500 on ebay BiN right now!
Post by: allnumbedup on July 30, 2022, 11:43:54 AM
I am adding to this thread because I am right now working on a pink 1500 which has a round logo on the case which is dated 66, but then I also recently restored an aqua 2500 with a rectangular logo on the modular case which is dated 82. So while "rectangles going away around 1970" may be a good rule of thumb there must be exceptions too. I apologize if this has been covered elsewhere: I couldn't find it.