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Subset for W.E. 1002 Handset?

Started by Nick in Manitou, February 23, 2014, 05:36:49 PM

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poplar1

#15
BELL SYSTEM PRACTICES                                                     WR-C63.373
Station Installation and Maintenance                                Issue 1, 9-30-42
                                                                                                AT&T Co


                                          DESK STAND CONNECTIONS
                 
                                               COMMON BATTERY

1. GENERAL

    1.01  This sheet covers the method of connecting a sidetone
             common battery desk stand to an anti-sidetone sub-
scriber set for sidetone
use for all classes of service as given
in Section C63.373 and for anti-sidetone use on individual lines
without extensions.

    1.02  No changes are required in the connections of sidetone
            desk stands and only a few changes in the connections
to the anti-sidetone subscriber sets (bell boxes) as shown by
the typical cases in Figs. 1 and 2.

    1.03  When a sidetone desk stand is used with an anti-
             sidetone subscriber set to obtain the equivalent of a
sidetone circuit it should be connected as shown by the typical
case in Fig. 1.

   1.04  When a sidetone desk stand is used with an anti-
            sidetone subscriber set to obtain the equivalent of an
anti-sidetone circuit it should be connected as shown by the
typical case as shown in Fig. 2 and its use should be restricted to indi-
vidual lines without extensions and only one low impedance ringer or
two high impedance ringers are permitted on the line.


[Emphasis added]
"C'est pas une restauration, c'est une rénovation."--François Martin.

Contempra

Nice informations David... thank you

Nick in Manitou

Thanks to Poplar1 and to G-Man for all this information.

I will have to see if I pick up a 302 base as I expect, or perhaps find a source for another subset.

As one who has not done any telephone subset wiring before, it seems a bit daunting, but I assume that once I have the unit apart on the bench I will see that it is pretty straight forward.

If I can figure out the specifics of how to rewire telephone to try the anti-sidetone configuration, I think it would be interesting to try both configurations so that I can see how realistic it is to have the 1002 as a usable extension in the house.

Nick

Sargeguy

This is great information, I could not find any of it when I first purchase a 1002.  Does anyone have a picture of the 141A switch-hook?
Greg Sargeant
Providence, RI
TCI /ATCA #4409

Nick in Manitou

Here are a few photos I took of the switch-hook a while back.

A couple of the photos are very similar, but since they are not the same I included them all.

Nick

G-Man

Quote from: Sargeguy on February 25, 2014, 03:33:18 PM
This is great information, I could not find any of it when I first purchase a 1002.  Does anyone have a picture of the 141A switch-hook?

As shown is the catalog description for the 141A "Switch" hook.

It is simply a cup hook that is available at most hardware stores.

Google "brass cup hook" and dozens of images pop-up.





Nick in Manitou

Now I am wondering if  Sargeguy was looking for a photo of the hook or of the switch...?

I was wondering about what the original W.E. hook looked like as well, but if it was just a cup hook that is kind of disappointing!

Nick

G-Man

Quote from: Nick in Manitou on February 25, 2014, 04:18:43 PM
Now I am wondering if  Sargeguy was looking for a photo of the hook or of the switch...?

I was wondering about what the original W.E. hook looked like as well, but if it was just a cup hook that is kind of disappointing!

Nick

There would be no need for an actual switch hook with contacts, instead it is a hook for the handsets internal switch hook to hang on in order to actuate it. Almost anything that will allow it to be hung from will suffice.

These same cup hooks were also used for hanging telephone directories from wall sets.

There are also photos of the handset hanging from a modified deskstand.





Nick in Manitou

#23
G-Man,

I was picturing something fancier than just a cup hook.  Something with some pin striping or some fancy scroll-work.

;>)



Sargeguy

#24
At long last the mystery has been solved:

Greg Sargeant
Providence, RI
TCI /ATCA #4409

Mr. Bones

Goodness, Greg!

     Now that's an elaborately-engineered, and indubitably rare piece of hardware! ;)
   
Best regards!   
Sláinte!
   Mr. Bones
      Rubricollis Ferus