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Telephone Talk => Auction Talk => Topic started by: andre_janew on March 14, 2015, 08:49:02 PM

Title: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: andre_janew on March 14, 2015, 08:49:02 PM
This is my new Leich telephone I purchased on eBay for $13.99 plus $17 shipping.

Here is the link:  www.ebay.com/itm/201293585381
Title: Re: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: WesternElectricBen on March 14, 2015, 08:49:10 PM
I would like to nominate the Leich telephone I purchased on eBay for $13.99 plus $17 shipping.  I'd really love to show some photos I took of it, but the new system won't allow me to post them.

Here is the link:  www.ebay.com/itm/201293585381 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/201293585381)

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EDIT:  Photo added

Hi Andre,

That actually isn't a Leich, it's an Automatic Electric 80.

Ben
Title: Re: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on March 14, 2015, 08:55:38 PM
I would like to nominate the Leich telephone I purchased on eBay for $13.99 plus $17 shipping.  I'd really love to show some photos I took of it, but the new system won't allow me to post them.

Here is the link:  www.ebay.com/itm/201293585381 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/201293585381)

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EDIT:  Photo added

Hi Andre,

That actually isn't a Leich, it's an Automatic Electric 80.

Ben
It's possible that it could be a Leich convertible model. They look almost identical to the 80; kind if like a 500 vs a 5302.
Title: Re: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: WesternElectricBen on March 14, 2015, 08:57:37 PM
I stand corrected, it does say Leich in the last picture.

Ben
Title: Re: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: TelePlay on March 14, 2015, 09:39:45 PM
I stand corrected, it does say Leich in the last picture.

Ben

Well, it is labeled as an AE Monophone that was made by Leich. So, wasn't it a Leich phone until transferred to AE for distribution?
Title: Re: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: unbeldi on March 14, 2015, 09:46:05 PM
Leich was bought out by General Telephone in the 50s, which also owned Automatic Electric buy then.  Leich continued under their name until the 60s and many parts carried their brand, but the product was really a hybrid of them all.
Title: Re: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: andre_janew on March 15, 2015, 02:32:45 PM
I also have an AE 80.  They are similar.  The dials are a bit different inside and out.  Underneath that sticker is some sort of adjustment for the ringer.  That is something my 80 doesn't have.  Also, the Leich is heavier than the 80.  The handset cord comes out the back on the Leich whereas it comes out the side on the 80.  Now if I could just post the pictures I took of the Leich . . . .
Title: Re: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: rdelius on March 15, 2015, 03:35:09 PM
Some of the earlier type 80 sets were made by leich but branded AE.Mostly the 1950s sets with the potted network and loop adjust.It is also possible that the move from Chicago to Northlake might have something to do with it if not enough sets could be built at Chicago  .Earlier sets have chrome  plungers,cords out the back,dial mounts with screws instead of a spring latch.
Title: Re: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: HarrySmith on March 15, 2015, 06:55:48 PM
I asked this same question:

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=10891.msg116439#msg116439
Title: Re: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: andre_janew on March 16, 2015, 12:48:59 PM
There is a date in the lower right hand corner of 3-57.  There is no center hole in the receiver cap.  It does have the chrome plungers.  Just to be clear, I'm talking about the Leich phone.  Anyway, the plungers have a bit of black paint on the tips.  I suppose they could've been painted black at one time.
Title: Re: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: andre_janew on March 16, 2015, 07:03:06 PM
Finally figured out how to post some pictures on this forum!  Here is what is under that sticker and what I believe is the date of the phone:
Title: Re: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: andre_janew on March 24, 2015, 06:58:16 PM
I did say that the receiver cap doesn't have a center hole and I have the picture to prove it.  The receiver element is a bit different than what I expected.  The transmitter looks like I expected it would.
Title: Re: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: andre_janew on March 24, 2015, 07:04:11 PM
I also have a few pictures of the network.
Title: Re: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: andre_janew on March 24, 2015, 07:08:34 PM
I have a picture of the ringer and according to the label, it shouldn't work.  However, it does work.  Was it mislabeled?  Altered?
Title: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: andre_janew on March 24, 2015, 07:25:50 PM
Here is a picture of the dial.  Yes, one of the cover screws is missing.  It was that way when I got it.  The 4-36 machine screws I have are the right size and pitch, but not long enough.
Title: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: rdelius on March 24, 2015, 10:11:12 PM
That is an AE SATT dial
Title: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: andre_janew on March 29, 2015, 01:56:04 PM
I have put a surface mount jack on the end of the line cord.  The cord restraint is different than what is used on typical WE phones.  It is probably more like what is used on typical AE phones.  Even so, I have managed to secure it to the jack.  At the other end of the jack I have a short line cord that is often used with modular wall phones.
Title: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: unbeldi on March 29, 2015, 02:26:12 PM
I think that putting such a surface mount jack interface on cord ends is generally a good idea. It makes it easy to connect the device to modern modular wiring and it preserves the original cord endings in a reversible manner.

When it is necessary to repair the cord ends due to dried up and disintegrated rubber insulation, such repairs can be hidden in the box. This is illustrated in the picture attached.  This is a D3AK-4 cord which normally has very long leads, but in this case were too deteriorated and exposed the tinsel. One lead was already missing its spade terminal, and another had only intermittent conductivity.  It was best to just cut off the ends, move the cord strain relief about 3 inches and terminate.

But to be picky, you made one mistake in your construction.  You have to switch the polarity of your wires.  Green from the telephone goes to red on jack, and vice versa. Black goes to yellow, and vice versa. You have to remember that the modular jack presents an FXO interface in this application, and therefore all circuits must be reversed.  OTOH, for inside wiring, in the wall, red would indeed go to red, and  so forth.

Title: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: TelePlay on March 29, 2015, 04:55:30 PM
When it is necessary to repair the cord ends due to dried up and disintegrated rubber insulation, such repairs can be hidden in the box. This is illustrated in the picture attached.  This is a D3AK-4 cord which normally has very long leads, but in this case were too deteriorated and exposed the tinsel. One lead was already missing its spade terminal, and another had only intermittent conductivity.  It was best to just cut off the ends, move the cord strain relief about 3 inches and terminate.

Great idea, putting shrink tubing on those connections before adding new spade lugs on fragile wire to prevent handling issues in the future if they have to be removed and also, to reduce the possibility of getting a short in the surface mount jack.
Title: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: andre_janew on March 30, 2015, 12:23:28 PM
My phone works just fine the way it is wired right now.  Rotary phones are not polarity sensitive like the TT phones are.  If I had an early 10 or 12 button TT phone that was hard wired, I might have to wire things like you said.  My dad always said, "If it works just fine the way it is, then leave it the hell alone."   That is what I am going to do.
Title: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: andre_janew on April 01, 2015, 04:48:14 PM
Here is a picture of the dial card that came with the phone.  What was showing in the eBay photos was the back of this card.  I now have a different card in place of it.
Title: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: andre_janew on September 13, 2015, 05:19:43 PM
What I'd really like to do is get a modular plug like the one in the following pictures to put on the end of the line cord.  I don't think I could do it because I don't think they make them anymore.
Title: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: TelePlay on September 13, 2015, 07:21:55 PM
I use these. All that's needed is a mod to mod pigtail to make the connection to the wall. Actually, that connection can be as long as you like it since the adapter is on the end of the original phone cord.

http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/mt-103w/4-cond-modular-phone-jack-white/1.html
Title: Re: Leich phone won on eBay
Post by: WesternElectricBen on September 13, 2015, 09:02:38 PM
That's a good deal on those jacks when they are new. Although, I have had good luck with buying those jacks in lots (used, or course) on eBaY for a good price.

Ben