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Telephone Talk => Forum News => Topic started by: AE_Collector on November 07, 2017, 09:59:19 AM

Title: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: AE_Collector on November 07, 2017, 09:59:19 AM
Please post links to specific topics that have been adversely affected by the Photobucket a Ransom. If necessary provide the page number of the topic to help speed up locating the problem.

These topics have pictures like below instead of the original picture which was stored on Photobuclet and then linked to rather than being uploaded directly to CRPF. A Moderator will attempt to restore the pictures and then mark the post as COMPLETED. (Or maybe we will just delete the individual post once completed)

Terry
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: TelePlay on November 07, 2017, 10:15:20 AM
This is what a topic will look like when fixed.

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=136.0
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: LarryInMichigan on November 07, 2017, 10:16:19 AM
I expect that, as more sites adopt this fix and Photobucket sees their traffic increasing, they will devise a way to stop it from working.

Larry
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: AE_Collector on November 07, 2017, 10:25:00 AM
My thoughts exactly.

Terry
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: AE_Collector on November 07, 2017, 10:29:35 AM
This is what a topic will look like when fixed.

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=136.0


Oh of course...I was temporarily forgetting that the bad links canít directly be replaced with the pictures, the pictures have to go at the bottom of each post rather than being imbedded in the text. This also means that there will be posts out there with MORE THAN 6 linked pictures in them. The only way to fix that is going to be to create multiple pictures in one such as John frequently does.

Terry
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: andy1702 on November 07, 2017, 01:35:35 PM
Did anyone ever get anywhere fixing the image upload problems this forum has? Yes, I know there are "work arounds" but they are annoying and time consuming when every other forum in the worls seems to be able toa ccept any image size or file type and can also have the photos inserted where they should be within the text of the post using the insert image function. I think the site would get a lot more traffic if this was fixed.
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: TelePlay on November 07, 2017, 02:48:00 PM
Did anyone ever get anywhere fixing the image upload problems this forum has? Yes, I know there are "work arounds" but they are annoying and time consuming when every other forum in the worls seems to be able toa ccept any image size or file type and can also have the photos inserted where they should be within the text of the post using the insert image function. I think the site would get a lot more traffic if this was fixed.

It's fixed, the security upload issue that is. And it has been fixed for a good 6 months now. And what does this mean: "I think the site would get a lot more traffic if this was fixed."

However, if anyone tries to upload an image with the largest dimension greater than 2500 pixels, the server image processing software installed successfully to fix the security error issue, will develop resource problem, a buffer overflow, and the forum screen will go white, lock up or jump to "create a new reply" page. Simple solution, don't upload raw images from PCS phones.

STRONG HINT: Rotate, crop and resize images to no more than 2500 pixels on the largest side before attaching them to a topic for upload. Those 6000 x 4000 iPhone and other such large images which would require well over 40 MBytes of server buffer RAM to process (to eliminate the upload security error asked about) WILL cause an upload failure.

All of this has been posted in the "How To Post Photos on CRPF"  including this specific topic dealing with buffer overflow:

     http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=18551.0

THE SPECIFIC ASKED QUESTION QUOTED ABOVE AND THIS REPLY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PHOTOBUCKET RANSOMEWARE ISSUE. THE SECURITY ERROR UPLOAD ISSUE/QUESTION IS BEING DISCUSSED IN THE ABOVE TOPIC LINK.



Now, it is not true, it is simply just not the case that "every other forum in the worls (sic) seems to be able toa (sic) ccept (sic) any image size or file type" since I know of sites that will just outright delete in full any attempted upload if the image is too large. Some sites have automatic image size checks (which we tried for awhile) and if the image exceeds the size set, an oversized upload error message is returned causing the image(s) to be rotated, cropped and resized before being accepted. And some sites have very strict, specific image requirements for uploading to the site. Such strict requirement of one site that comes to mind is attached showing the maximum XY pixel limits, the maximum file side of the image (only 600 KBytes vs the forum acceptance of 3 MByte images), and the exact way to create a file name for the uploaded image - and that forum has just under 2 million images as of this date so their members must think enough of their images to abide by the rules, take the time and make the effort to create the best image possible for upload.

We have discussed putting such size parameters on images to be uploaded. We hoped that members would take the personal responsibility to create and upload the best images of their phones possible (rotated, cropped, resized). It comes down to the question of allowing members to upload large, expandable images of reasonable, edited size and run the risk of some members pushing the size envelope until the buffers say no more versus strictly limiting images sizes as done in several ways on other sites forcing members to fit their images into a specific format. Being able to upload unlimited 3 MByte images to a free forum puts some of the responsibility on the person uploading the images to make sure they look great, present the image desired and successfully upload, without error.
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: TelePlay on November 07, 2017, 03:39:51 PM
Getting this topic back on topic, I was working on topics with PB linked images, downloading them, numbering them and attaching them to the topic/reply for posterity. Then I ran into this topic which is about 4 years old.

     http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=9550.msg102211#msg102211

When I open this reply, with the extension in place, I get the Photobucket ransomware image for about a half second and then the space goes white, the PB image is not picked up by the extension. The ransomeware image disappears and nothing is displayed, just a few lines of blank space, white space where the link would have put the picture.

I put the small red image I created after each of these 5 external links to show where the links are within the text.

This reply in question is about 4 years old, the image seems to be on PB, but it seems the extension does not work on this PB account image. It has to still be on PB in that if it were not, a URL error would appear.

Does the extension not work on all images, is PB fighting back against the extension or is there something I missed?

Below are the external image codes posted within that reply for reference. It may be that even with this extension, some PB images can't be recovered/seen?


Code: [Select]
[img width=700 height=525]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/Claven2/phones/Image4_zps474e40ac.jpg[/img]
[img width=700 height=525]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/Claven2/phones/Image5_zps10bc1002.jpg[/img]
[img width=700 height=525]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/Claven2/phones/Image6_zps77b58b04.jpg[/img]
[img width=700 height=525]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/Claven2/phones/Image7_zpse84360d8.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/Claven2/phones/Image8_zpsa2fb800a.jpg[/img]

==========================

Still waiting for links to be posed here to forum topics with PB images in them. I can find some by creative searching but members posting links as they find them would be really helpful so that anyone can spend there time fixing these image problems that the forum has.
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: GLadstone on November 08, 2017, 02:26:16 AM
Hi TelePlay,

RE: reply #7 above:

The photos from Claven2's Photobucket account may have been deleted.

Or, perhaps the privacy setting of the photos and/or album was changed and the extension can no longer "see" the photos...

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These links are probably already on your to-do list, but here are a few to check out:


From the list in the "Example #3 for not using image links to photos on external sites" topic:
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=18470.0 (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=18470.0)



http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=221.msg24001#msg24001 (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=221.msg24001#msg24001)  fixed on 11/8/17


http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=6952.msg79012#msg79012 (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=6952.msg79012#msg79012)  fixed on 11/8/17



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From the "Peroxide Treatment Detailed Instructions" Topic:
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=1146.msg197047#msg197047


From page 2, Reply #24: http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=1146.msg14516#msg14516 (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=1146.msg14516#msg14516)  fixed on 11/8/17

From page 2, Reply #25: http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=1146.msg14517#msg14517 (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=1146.msg14517#msg14517)  fixed on 11/8/17


From page 3, Reply #34: http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=1146.msg14550#msg14550 (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=1146.msg14550#msg14550)  fixed on 11/8/17


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And, an idea to locate other topics that may need to be fixed:

Once you find a topic with photos shared from Photobucket, check out the member username and explore their posting history.

Hope that helps.

Take care,
GLadstone
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: TelePlay on November 08, 2017, 12:52:59 PM
Thanks, and to let everyone know if anybody is working on this issue, the above reported Photobuck external image links

     http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=19200.msg197166#msg197166

have been fixed, each of the external images downloaded from Photobucket, saved with an increasing numeric file name, the text annotated to refer to the file name (attached image number) and the images uploaded without issue to the reply.

Yes, takes time, a lot of time, over 40 minutes for the above posted links, but for the good of the forum, or at least anyone interested in the information provided in each of those (peroxide treatment and painting).
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: HarrySmith on November 08, 2017, 01:10:36 PM
John, many thanks again for taking the time to fix this stuff for us! Your efforts are applauded & appreciated!
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: TelePlay on November 08, 2017, 01:55:41 PM
Thanks, Harry.

======================

Additional topics "fixed" within the past 2 hours. Some of them quite informational.

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=9550.0  ( fixed )
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=93.0  ( fixed )
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=91.0  ( fixed )
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=66.0  ( fixed )
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=59.0  ( fixed )
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=129.0  ( fixed )
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?board=75.0  ( fixed )

=====================

Members are asked to report (cut and paste URL links) of topics with Photobucket images here as additional replies so they can be repaired.
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: twocvbloke on November 10, 2017, 05:36:09 AM
Mr. Bones' signature has a photobucket ransom image in it, just noticed now while looking for an old photo of mine... :)
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: TelePlay on November 10, 2017, 08:26:12 AM
Mr. Bones' signature has a photobucket ransom image in it, just noticed now while looking for an old photo of mine... :)

Yes, you are correct. I spotted that soon after PB changed their policy. Mr. Bones was not logging in and then did one day. I sent him a PM about that. He did not reply or change that image.

Also, some older members who do not log on have PB images for their icon profile. HELLO CENTRAL who has not logged on in six years is one example.

    http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=5311.0

When clicking on the link, you will note the page continues to load until the server times out and then the large white space under his handle, where his externally linked icon would be, collapses down to no space at all.

No one can change the profile except the member. So, those problem will be there forever. 
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: twocvbloke on November 10, 2017, 09:11:11 AM
No one can change the profile except the member. So, those problem will be there forever. 

Ah, some forum software usually allows admins (sometimes Moderators too) to change the signatures (usually used if they have something offensive, annoying or that breaks ToS of the forum), don't know if that's true with SMF, I've only experienced "the other side" of the PHPBB2 forum software myself... :)
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: twocvbloke on November 10, 2017, 02:06:09 PM
This is Mr. Bones' signature as it displays with the Firefox extension enabled.


I noticed it on my mobile phone browser this morning (no addons on there other than an adblocker) so was easy to spot... :)
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: TelePlay on November 10, 2017, 02:13:45 PM
I noticed it on my mobile phone browser this morning (no addons on there other than an adblocker) so was easy to spot... :)

Not anymore!

Turns out Mr. Bones logged in this morning right about when we were posting our replies and must have spotted our discussion because he has modified his profile, taken his signature off.

He could of at least said "Hi" and let us know what's new . . .
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: TelePlay on November 17, 2017, 02:51:50 PM
john - another photobucket topic ......

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=9296.0

Thanks, fixed.
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: TelePlay on November 17, 2017, 04:34:31 PM
another ..... http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=3967.0

Thanks, fixed.
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: TelePlay on November 19, 2017, 04:43:18 PM
a few more.......

Thanks, all fixed.
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: TelePlay on November 22, 2017, 03:49:45 PM
More suspect posts from david@london:

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=5892.0
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=5204.0
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=4901.0
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=3852.msg96683#msg96683
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=7397.0
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=7461.0
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=6484.0
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=6099.0
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=6119.0

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=5892.0  (fixed 11/22/17 )
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=5204.0  (fixed 11/22/17 )
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=4901.0  (fixed 11/22/17 )
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=3852.msg96683#msg96683  (fixed 11/22/17 )
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=7397.0  (fixed 11/22/17 )
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=7461.0  (fixed 11/22/17 )
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=6484.0  (fixed 11/22/17 )
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=6099.0  (fixed 11/22/17 )
http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=6119.0  (fixed 11/22/17 )
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: AE_Collector on November 22, 2017, 11:03:58 PM
Good job everyone!

Terry
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: Nick in Manitou on November 24, 2017, 06:51:07 PM
I just want to say thanks for all the effort!

A lot of us gain a lot from this forum and I wanted to say thank you to John and the others for the time and energy they put in on our behalf!

Sincerely!
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: AE_Collector on November 25, 2017, 09:40:59 AM
John does an incredible amount of work on the forum. Everyone who posts here contributes but much of what John does makes the experience here just that much better.

Thanks everyone and particularly John.

Terry
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: TelePlay on November 25, 2017, 11:46:20 AM
John does an incredible amount of work on the forum. Everyone who posts here contributes but much of what John does makes the experience here just that much better.

Thanks everyone and particularly John.


Thanks, Terry, but in the words of Steven Seagal, "I'm just a cook" trying to make this forum the best it can be with a lot of wonderful and thankful help from the membership - they are the ones that make this forum what it truly is.
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on December 11, 2017, 09:59:15 PM
Here's one:

www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=6702
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: TelePlay on December 11, 2017, 11:06:05 PM
Here's one:

www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=6702

Sorry, could not be fixed. Either the Photobucket account has been deleted or moved or the images themselves have been deleted or moved.
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: GLadstone on December 12, 2017, 02:04:32 AM
Sorry, could not be fixed. Either the Photobucket account has been deleted or moved or the images themselves have been deleted or moved.

Hi TelePlay,

I'm still able to see the images, so I attached a screenshot to the original topic and sent you a PM with the image links (copy & paste).

Hope you can see the images in the links!

Thanks again for all your help with archiving these images!

Take care,
GLadstone
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: TelePlay on December 12, 2017, 10:53:10 AM
Hi TelePlay,

I'm still able to see the images, so I attached a screenshot to the original topic and sent you a PM with the image links (copy & paste).

Hope you can see the images in the links!

Thanks again for all your help with archiving these images!

Take care,
GLadstone

Thanks, seems my add-on went bad. Reinstalled it and I can now see the images. Unfortunately, Nilsog was a major user of external links and I just spent 2 hours processing but only making it through a bit less than half of his posts finding 121 images which were processed requiring 1089 clicks to process and another 182 clicks to upload the processed images to the respective posts. Only 114 more posts to check once my arm and hand recover from mouse clicking. A major mistake for members to have used external links in the first 5 years of the forum's existence. So far, two of his single replies each had 17 externally linked photos, links to those can be found in the edit note at this post:

     http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=6702.msg77144#msg77144

Going forward, I am really leaning toward simply deleting any post that does not have supporting images attached or any post that includes an externally linked image. We've know of this problem for several years now and for some to count on me to do their "secretarial" work is abuse of my time. Other forums delete such posts so why not this one given all that has been said on this issue?

EDIT Note: the saving vs copying to paint and saving seems to be machine dependent. The older laptop I was using had issues displaying the images and saving them. The old desk top I recently upgraded from XP to WIN7 has neither of these problems so will use this machine to fix the remaining Nilsog externally linked images.
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on December 13, 2017, 02:06:30 PM
Here's another one, on the second page, reply #90:

www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=717.50
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: TelePlay on December 13, 2017, 02:30:55 PM
Here's another one, on the second page, reply #90:

www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=717.50

Can't find it. #90 has an attached photo of a GPO phone. Reply shows img code for 2 Photobucket links but I don't see either the Photobucket warning or the image. Only the image of the "fixed" or another phone shows, which is attached.

Taking the imbedded img code and going directly to Photobucket, I get the error message, attached here.
Title: Re: Topics in need of repair due to the Photobucket Ransom
Post by: AE_Collector on December 26, 2017, 11:09:17 PM
John:
Hereís a small group in a single post:

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=2003.msg27027#msg27027

Terry