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Telephone Talk => Collector's Corner => Topic started by: Doug Rose on November 12, 2017, 12:03:01 PM

Title: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: Doug Rose on November 12, 2017, 12:03:01 PM
Couple of weeks ago Jan found 3 really filthy 302s, but they did have cloth handset cords so I told her to get them. $25 for three! I picked it up today and thought, man is this light. Empty inside AA1. AA1 for those who do not know were used to replace Candlesticks but still keep the subset or magneto that they were connected.

They has to be someplace like a garage because they were covered with a thick heavy grime. It took me three hours to get one cleaned and underneath the just shines. The bakelite handsets look like they are NOS after you get the sh*T off.

This is a war phone which WE didn't make many, shell is date 3 28 44, the really tight fitting shell like the color sets. Base is date 6 44, receiver is dated 3 10 43 and the transmitter is dated 1 44.

Western Electric handset, not a Bell System. Seems heavier than usual, its the early solid handset.

Coolest thing is all have the same dial card Fire 582 Disp 207.  Must have been used in a Fire Station is my guess. Line cords were cut, but conversation is loud and clear. All three handsets are amazing, you can see the shine through the grime....Doug
Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: Pourme on November 12, 2017, 12:49:54 PM
I didn't know these existed, but it makes sense that they would produce such a set. Good find and the excellent condition is a big bonus!...Jan comes through again!

Benny
Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: Doug Rose on November 12, 2017, 01:08:41 PM
it gets even better. When I was cleaning it in the Dungeon, I thought I saw a reddish color to it. I stuck it in the phone room and it is maroon. Sitting in full sun, not optimum for a picture but WOW!!! Check out the difference of the dial blank and the handset.


I had one a few years ago, but this seems more maroon or brown...Doug


http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=10277.msg109142#msg109142

Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: Pourme on November 12, 2017, 01:43:55 PM
Wow...How cool is that?
Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on November 12, 2017, 02:36:02 PM
Pretty cool find, Doug! I have an AB1 that was converted to an AA1 by the independent that owned it.

I think this was Western Electric doing experiments with thermoplastic 302s to find the best possible black Thermoplastic. The Maroon and Indigo variants seem to be the more common types found.
Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: Doug Rose on November 12, 2017, 02:58:30 PM
If you have it in normal light, it looks black with a little reddish hue. Totally different in sunlight. I will sit on this for a while....thanks...Doug
Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: Babybearjs on November 12, 2017, 05:10:58 PM
Mine came with a 317 Subset....
Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: oldguy on November 12, 2017, 11:21:49 PM
I'm like Benny, never heard of AA1s either. Great find & thank for explaining what they are.
Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: Doug Rose on November 12, 2017, 11:39:40 PM
Gary/Benny.....thanks,,,,Doug
Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: RB on November 13, 2017, 11:23:13 AM
Cool find!
So they are just the hand set, and the hook switch inside, right?
with a 3 wire connect cable?
Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: Doug Rose on November 13, 2017, 12:20:00 PM
Correct, but the line cord is a 4 wire to connect to the subset. This one I could save the line cord...Doug

Below is the second one....all black  :'( really nice shape dated 5/44 throughout. These are a chore to clean...but really nice under all the grime....Doug
Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: Doug Rose on December 03, 2017, 10:03:34 AM
I broke my own rules, never mess with a great phone in perfect condition. I did mess with a great phone. The case is maroon and the plungers match. How many WE 302s have you seen in this color??

It was an AA1 with a black dial blank and a black F1. Great dial card. Unless you have something black on it, the case looks black.

I put on an Ivory 6D and and Ivory F1. Now it looks like a maroon case, but still photographs as back  :o.  I have not ruined anything and can put it back. I am trying this on for size...to see if it fits  8) 

Comments are welcome....Doug
Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: Dennis Markham on December 03, 2017, 06:14:20 PM
Very nice, Doug.

Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: Brinybay on December 03, 2017, 09:00:48 PM

Comments are welcome....Doug

So if they were used in a firehouse, why would they need to put their own number on the dial card?  Or do the firehouses call each other if there's a fire in the firehouse?
Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: oldguy on December 03, 2017, 10:45:18 PM
Always remember Phones R Fun :) :)
Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: Brinybay on December 03, 2017, 11:32:47 PM
Always remember Phones R Fun :) :)

That would be Bill Guerts:  http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=475
Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: Doug Rose on December 04, 2017, 07:53:42 AM
Very nice, Doug.


thanks Den....it came out better than expected. Still hard to photograph but sitting next t to a black phone, it stands out.

Briny....I have no idea why all three had the same dial card....they are cool phones!..Doug
Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: RB on December 04, 2017, 09:51:12 AM
Sweeet!!! love the lite handset and dial. looks regal.
Title: Re: Western Electric AA1 3/28/44
Post by: Brinybay on December 04, 2017, 09:58:44 AM

Briny....I have no idea why all three had the same dial card....they are cool phones!..Doug

I'm certain it's the same reason that dial cards on vintage phones had the business or home phone number on them.  I just checked our own modern phone, an AT&T cordless with one extension, there's not even a place for any kind of dial card.