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Telephone Talk => Auction Talk => Topic started by: Gary on September 21, 2010, 08:23:25 PM

Title: My 5302G
Post by: Gary on September 21, 2010, 08:23:25 PM
Just received a 5302G-GF yesterday.  Got it with a Buy It Now for $5 + $17 shipping.  It's in great shape and has a bakelite G1 handset.  This is a neat looking phone, I like the short body!  The dial spins really smooth.  One thing though is the transmitter is stuck in the mouthpiece cover.  Doesn't look like I can get it out past the threads.

Base 6/41
Ringer 6/41
Coil II 41
Capacitor II 41
Dial 5M II 41
Dial Face I 60
Case 4 14 60
HA1 receiver 5-26-47
F1 transmitter I 48 and 5-57T and 5-64T. 

Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: Kenny C on September 21, 2010, 08:24:48 PM
nice deal the 5H dial is worth that alone.
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: HarrySmith on September 21, 2010, 08:25:10 PM
Nice score, Gary ;D
Great phone for $22.00 ;D
Try heating up the handset with a hair dryer to get the element out.
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: Gary on September 21, 2010, 08:33:13 PM
Thanks, yeah I have no idea why someone would BIN something like this for just $5, but I wasted no time in hitting that button.   Actually, the element isn't "stuck" as in frozen, it spins but it appears like it sits behind the threads.  Like the inner diameter of the thread is smaller than the outer diameter of the element.  ???
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: Kenny C on September 21, 2010, 08:35:49 PM
its very clean on the inside from the pictures
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: Dan on September 21, 2010, 08:45:31 PM
I like the G1 handset better than the f-1. Nice score :)
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: LarryInMichigan on September 21, 2010, 08:46:54 PM
Gary,

There is a trick to removing the transmitter capsule.  It has been discussed here before.  The transmitter cap is actually made of two parts.  The small inner ring is threaded on both its inner and outer sides and screws into the outer cap, holding the capsule in place.  You need to remove the inner ring to remove the capsule, and removing that ring can be tricky.

Larry
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: Kenny C on September 21, 2010, 08:52:30 PM
I have never saw screw on rubber feet have you guys? my 5302 has 2 leather feet  and 2 screw on neopreen feet 
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: Gary on September 21, 2010, 08:57:47 PM
Kenny, yes, very clean and that's as received.  I've got it all apart now and will start cleaning up the outside.  The handset polished up pretty well.

Dan, I too like the G1 for this phone.  A much better fit.  Yes, I meant to ask about the rubber feet on this!  Of course they're pretty dried out.  Not cracked but not soft either.

Larry, thanks!  I'll look at it more closely.  Here's a photo, don't know if it shows up well here.
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: LarryInMichigan on September 21, 2010, 09:10:00 PM
Gary,

I tried to annotate your picture to indicate the two parts of the transmitter cap and the gap which is visible around the outer diameter.  The threads which screw onto the handset are part of the inner ring.

Larry

Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: Gary on September 21, 2010, 09:15:04 PM
hmmmm, it appears these two sections are pretty well "fused" together.
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: LarryInMichigan on September 21, 2010, 09:27:46 PM
Gary,

I had a terrible time separating mine.  I found that if I squeeze the edges of the cap, the two parts start to separate a bit, and I can then start to unscrew them from each other.  The cap is soft plastic, so it is quite flexible, and also easily damaged.

Larry
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: Gary on September 21, 2010, 09:49:10 PM
Thanks for the help Larry but wow, simply not enough of any edge to grab firm enough.
As Curly would say "Oh, stubborn eh?"   :D
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: Gary on September 21, 2010, 10:17:08 PM
Got it!!!!!  wow, that certainly wasn't easy.  Had given up and was on my way down to the basement to put it back on the handset and while passing through the kitchen got an idea.  I grabbed this square piece of flat rubber in the utensil drawer my wife uses for opening tight jar lids and used it to get a grip on the inside part.
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: deedubya3800 on September 21, 2010, 10:31:49 PM
The GF handset is quite a find, as well. Mine has a straight G1 with the T1/U1 elements. The GF, though, is truly in the spirit of the 5302, having the "500" look on the outside and the "302" guts on the inside. :)

Looks really nice, inside and out!  :)
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: LarryInMichigan on September 21, 2010, 10:34:10 PM
Congratulations!  When I finally managed to open mine, I found the inside of the cap covered in thick, fuzzy, white mold :(  Yours looks spotless.

One point, which you may have already discovered, is that the metal contacts in the transmitter cup in the handset just barely touch the bottom of the transmitter capsule.  It may help to gently bend the contacts upward a bit so that they will make better contact.

Larry
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: Gary on September 21, 2010, 10:52:16 PM
Thanks D, I agree about the handset.
Larry, that's why I really wanted to get this open, to make sure there were no surprises in there but  yes, it's very clean.  I'll keep that in mind about the contacts when I put it together.  Thanks for the help!!
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: Gary on September 26, 2010, 03:05:19 PM
Finished cleaning it up this weekend.  Everything works well.  Jorge's finish procedure using Turtle Wax F21 after Novus 2 was another success.
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: LarryInMichigan on September 26, 2010, 03:36:27 PM
Gary,

It looks great, but you need to fix the coils on the handset cord.

Larry
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: Gary on September 26, 2010, 04:09:50 PM
Thanks Larry!  I noticed that and tried flipping it a few times but seemed to make it worse so I gave up.  A rookie mistake  ;)  I'll try working them out some more.
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: paul-f on September 26, 2010, 05:02:39 PM
Thanks Larry!  I noticed that and tried flipping it a few times but seemed to make it worse so I gave up.  A rookie mistake  ;)  I'll try working them out some more.

Try using a dowel.  Check out this topic:
   http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=202.0

Size the dowel based on the inside diameter of the coil.  With a little practice, you can wind cords on the dowel while still attached to the set and handset -- although it's a lot easier if you disconnect it.
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: Gary on September 26, 2010, 05:30:18 PM
Thanks Paul, that's an interesting thread with some great techniques.  I quickly tried undoing the mis-loop(?) and found myself just moving it up the cord until it was out and they were all spiraling in the same direction.  After reading that thread, I can see now how the cord still looks somewhat stretched in spots and could benefit from a reforming procedure with a dowel and some heat.
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: Kenny C on September 26, 2010, 08:44:56 PM
I bake at 170 instead of 200(?) for 20 min. and put it in the freezer for the same time to let it cool the let it warnm to room temp.
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: McHeath on September 28, 2010, 12:24:38 AM
Great looking phone and it's turned out well, you can be proud of it.  It's great how a phone made in 1941 was later turned into a "modern" phone and is still being used in the 21st century.  

The cooking the cord trick with the oven and dowel works wonders and will make that cord look new.  I've had excellent results with cords in much worse shape than this one.  
Title: Re: My 5302G
Post by: Gary on September 28, 2010, 10:54:58 PM
Thanks McHeath, yes I love this phone how it's really two in one!  I'll give that technique a try on the cord sometime.