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Collector's Corner / Re: Northern N393BA with Gray Tel Pay Station Coin Collector.
« Last post by Jim S. on July 20, 2018, 10:34:49 PM »
I think a repro plate is a lot better than no plate. That is why the repro plates sell high.
Jim S.
Auction Talk / Re: "Lucky" seller
« Last post by Jim S. on July 20, 2018, 10:33:03 PM »
Clearly an AE phone is called a Western Electric, or vise versa.
Many times they are called GE
Well a piece of TV history, is cool, and I know that technology didn't exist where a princess could be used as a mobile set.
Just like knight rider 2000, couldn't do all they made it out to.
Taking corners at Nealy  a hundred mph jumping though box cars traveling down the rails.
I wonder who's warehouse this Sat in for all these years.
Collector's Corner / Re: Space Saver in the UK
« Last post by poplar1 on July 20, 2018, 10:23:32 PM »
With G-type handset as shown, it would normally be used with a 685A subset.
Except on long loops, using a G1 or G3 handset with a 684A subset will cause excessive sidetone.
Auction Talk / Re: "Lucky" seller
« Last post by Key2871 on July 20, 2018, 10:22:37 PM »
Yea, art deco, and retro. With the internet what it is, these people don't want to take the time to simply look up what they are looking to sell.
And item descriptions, AE,WE, SC,ITT seems to headline a lot of these listings. Clearly an AE phone is called a Western Electric, or vise versa. Or even none of the above, phone's that are European, people try to call it a cross between AE, and WE.
A Google Search using the name of the phone, most are clearly marked. They miss it. More interested in just posting the items, and getting them sold, that's the most important thing. Packing with one thin piece of bubble wrap is another..
Collector's Corner / Re: Space Saver in the UK
« Last post by jsowers on July 20, 2018, 10:19:25 PM »
But it looks nice and complete.

What you see is only half the phone. It's nice and yes it looks to have all its parts, but you need a subset to make the phone complete and work as originally intended. There is no network or ringer inside a WE 211 space saver phone. It also came with a metal hanger for the handset when you needed to leave the phone for a minute. That may have been optional, but it was included on some original installations. Below is a wiring diagram showing the phone with its subset (sometimes called a subscriber set).
Auction Talk / Re: Ever wonder where old phones go to die?
« Last post by Key2871 on July 20, 2018, 10:13:33 PM »
Ran across this auction a couple weeks ago. Phoneco is selling these. From what I've seen, I wouldn't waste my time to even go look. They look beat.
Cords - All Types / Re: Modular coiled handset cord with only 2 conductors
« Last post by Key2871 on July 20, 2018, 10:10:34 PM »
One year, while doing my test thing with phone's, I came across one like this. It was on a cheap trimline knock off phone, where the only conductors needed was the center two to make the handset operate.
As I recall, Lucy helped shift the focus of the show away from technology to him being a PI with a secretary and Gail Fisher was brought in at the beginning of season 2 as Peggy and she added a lot to the show and it did better in the ratings. Over the years he had several unusual cars.

That Princess phone was just a prop and the technology to make a standard desk phone work in a car didn't exist. It had to be a specially designed radio telephone with a trunk-mounted unit and a head unit near the driver. Those head units were pretty small and looked a lot like Princess phones and they were often mounted on the transmission hump, which wasn't present in a Toronado since it was front wheel drive. The Princess phone's location in that car wasn't well thought out because how in the world could you dial it with it behind the driver like that. Maybe it was on rails and extended out and away from the seat?

Something else about that show... the Lalo Schifrin theme music will eat into your brain. It's very good. Here is a concert version with the sheet music that goes by on the screen and makes it interesting to watch.
Cords - All Types / Re: Modular coiled handset cord with only 2 conductors
« Last post by paul-f on July 20, 2018, 09:50:51 PM »
...why would anyone go through the tedious and time consuming removal of 2 pins or conductors to get it down to a 2 wire cord when the "extra" black and yellow could just not be connected inside the wall or phone. This cord came with the phone, as purchased.
It's possible that it's for a more modern phone that only requires two conductors, or that it's not a telephone handset cord, but was made for another purpose. Amateur radio operators often use modular wiring for custom purposes.

4p2c plugs are readily available, as are straight and coiled two-conductor cordage. Someone must sell - or have sold in the past - completed cords.

One current source for the plugs:

It would be interesting to learn how the cord found the set before you got it. ISTR running across a few of these on G15 handsets in the past and wondering where they came from.
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