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Telephone Talk => Auction Talk => Topic started by: Doug Rose on October 17, 2016, 06:14:28 PM

Title: 10/38 WE 302 Lavender Paint
Post by: Doug Rose on October 17, 2016, 06:14:28 PM
Robbie....is this an Old Chicago Phone? Lavender Paint job is superb, most of the tiny specs wiped off only a few chips. It has the real thin line and handset cloth cord that Old Chicago used. I was just going to bed when this came on Thursday night, I debated a bit, only four pics.... looked like a 38 or 39 base....so I  pulled the trigger. 10/ 38 on everything.  I will replace the cords, I think it is a keeper for $12.95....Doug
 
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Title: Re: 10/38 WE 302 Lavender Paint
Post by: rdelius on October 17, 2016, 08:04:25 PM
It is a Chicago Old Telephone  set.I might have built it.If cords cable tied or knotted, It was not my set. I followed the origional method.Suprised that it has no chrome bands on the handset
Title: Re: 10/38 WE 302 Lavender Paint
Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on October 17, 2016, 08:06:17 PM
I could definitely see a market for telephones that passed through 3rd party refurb shops like Old Chicago in the future. They were done pretty well, and look authentic to any non-collector.
Title: Re: 10/38 WE 302 Lavender Paint
Post by: andre_janew on October 18, 2016, 07:23:00 PM
Weren't most 302s painted in 1938?   (yes, I know that isn't a standard color!)
Title: Re: 10/38 WE 302 Lavender Paint
Post by: unbeldi on October 18, 2016, 07:50:50 PM
Weren't most 302s painted in 1938?   (yes, I know that isn't a standard color!)

Yes, in the most popular of hues, black.
As far as we can tell, colored 302s may have just got their start in late 1938 and 1939.  The 1939 catalog lists them.
Title: Re: 10/38 WE 302 Lavender Paint
Post by: Doug Rose on October 18, 2016, 07:56:37 PM
Robbie says I need chrome bands for it. Anyone have any for trade or for sale.....Doug
Title: Re: 10/38 WE 302 Lavender Paint
Post by: rdelius on October 18, 2016, 09:58:03 PM
All tooling and resources went to Old phone works in Canada.i assume he contunued to put bands on  F!handsets
Title: Re: 10/38 WE 302 Lavender Paint
Post by: Doug Rose on October 22, 2016, 05:24:37 PM
It is a Chicago Old Telephone  set.I might have built it.If cords cable tied or knotted, It was not my set. I followed the origional method.Suprised that it has no chrome bands on the handset
Looks like you built it Robbie!!
Title: Re: 10/38 WE 302 Lavender Paint
Post by: rdelius on October 22, 2016, 06:36:50 PM
I see it was a 304 I wired as a 302
Title: Re: 10/38 WE 302 Lavender Paint
Post by: Babybearjs on October 22, 2016, 08:16:15 PM
...and why did you do that?? I would have left it as a 304....
Title: Re: 10/38 WE 302 Lavender Paint
Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on October 22, 2016, 08:26:55 PM
...and why did you do that?? I would have left it as a 304....
He worked for a refurbishment company. Their main goal was to make the phones work for customers, not for collectible value.
Title: Re: 10/38 WE 302 Lavender Paint
Post by: rdelius on October 22, 2016, 09:13:13 PM
 Any body else there would have replaced the ind coil and cut off the extra hookswitch wires.Telephones were sold to people who wanted a good looking reliable old telephone that had a guarantee if it needed repairs.Colors were what was in at the time.
Title: Re: 10/38 WE 302 Lavender Paint
Post by: poplar1 on October 22, 2016, 10:20:25 PM
...and why did you do that?? I would have left it as a 304....
He did leave it a 304 -- but wired for an individual line.

 Think of all the 354s that Western Electric made, even though the extra "M" tap on the induction coil, and the extra 2 ringer wires, were rarely used! The 354s were usually used on individual lines, or on flat rate party lines, or for ring party on party lines that did have ANI: none of these needed the M tap or the extra ringer wires, so the 354 in most cases was wired to be equivalent to a 302 rather than a 304.

Rather than butcher a 304, to make it into a 302, the intelligent way is to wire it like a 354 that is wired for individual lines. The 354 has an "E" terminal for connecting the slate and slate-red ringer wires together for individual lines. In a 304 or 5304, you can substitute the GND terminal for E and tape and store the yellow mounting cord connector that normally would be on GND.
Title: Re: 10/38 WE 302 Lavender Paint
Post by: Doug Rose on November 13, 2016, 10:20:22 AM
Still looking for chrome bands for the headset. I am willing to trade or buy them from you....thanks....Doug
Title: Re: 10/38 WE 302 Lavender Paint
Post by: WEBellSystemChristian on November 13, 2016, 12:23:16 PM
I believe OPW sells those bands.
Title: Re: 10/38 WE 302 Lavender Paint
Post by: Doug Rose on February 24, 2017, 11:17:18 AM
Still looking for chrome bands for this.  PM me if you have them for sale or trade.....Doug