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Offline Konrad

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eBay Subset
« on: January 25, 2009, 01:09:49 PM »
Newbie comment statement.  Seems to me for a 102, 202 and dial candlestick to work there needs to be a network in the subset?  Yet any box with a bell in it is a subset on fleabay.  Which is the correct definition?

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Re: eBay Subset
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2009, 02:06:17 PM »
You're correct in that a 102, 202, and candlestick will need a subset (whether the phone has a dial or not).  An item that's listed as a "subset," but which has no network or induction coil inside is not actually a subset, but rather is an extension ringer.   An extension ringer was not intended to be hooked up to a telephone, but was instead placed in a far corner of a house, all by itself, to let people know the phone is ringing elsewhere.
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Re: eBay Subset
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2009, 02:31:51 PM »
Can someone post photos showing the inside of both, and maybe in oak also ?
For example the photo below is a Subset, that came with a dialess 202, what is the box, a subset, or just a ringer ?
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Re: eBay Subset
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2009, 03:38:28 PM »
The oak ones are a bit old for my knowledge, so I can't tell you anything about them.  The only extension ringer pic I have handy is the 687, but there was another with 302 styling, and I've seen some of the big metal subset boxes used for extension ringers, too.  Here's the 687:
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Re: eBay Subset
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2009, 04:09:52 PM »
That looks like it has a magneto inside it.  Does it have a crank?  If so it is neither a ringer box or a subset, its ...a crank box???  They were used for distant locations where you had to send a signal down the line to get the operator, similar to oak wall phones.
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Re: eBay Subset
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2009, 07:40:04 PM »
Dan,
What you have is a local battery subset. Notice that it does have an induction coil in it, so it could function as a (sidetone) subset.

There's a way to convert these to common battery using the parts there, but I wouldn't begin.

The old oak boxes were sometimes factory converted to common battery anti-sidetone subsets using a 101A coil