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Offline Dukevyner

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French continental rotary telephone
« on: October 21, 2013, 06:58:41 AM »
I recently acquired a rotary phone for a project. I need a little help with it as I don't understand how it works, a wiring diagram would be great but any info would be appreciated I don't really know what kind of phone it is because the seller didn't seem to know and there are no markings what so ever doing a search on google shows similar phone listed "French continental" or even "radio shack French continental 43-320" thanks for any help would be appreciated. Here are some pictures of the phone and the insides

Phone:http://www.flickr.com/photos/106158597@N06/10401326046/
Inside:http://www.flickr.com/photos/106158597@N06/10401301794/
Inside:http://www.flickr.com/photos/106158597@N06/10401324436/
Plug: http://www.flickr.com/photos/106158597@N06/10401696984/
Plug Inside: http://www.flickr.com/photos/106158597@N06/10401721135/
« Last Edit: October 21, 2013, 07:45:44 AM by Dukevyner »

Offline dsk

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Re: French continental rotary telephone
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2013, 07:09:13 AM »
Welcome to the forum,
These phones are in several versions, some are modified, some are made in the far east, some in Denmark.  If you have some pictures, especially of whats inside, it could be some who have specific information on this phone.

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I have even got a regular New York number :-) 646 570 1796

Offline Dukevyner

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Re: French continental rotary telephone
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2013, 07:37:16 AM »
sorry had to jump on the computer to post the pics they are in the first post now

Offline Dukevyner

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Re: French continental rotary telephone
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2013, 07:40:22 AM »
Also i am in Australia if that is any help so it is probably safe to assume its not made by radio shack 

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Re: French continental rotary telephone
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2013, 09:58:38 AM »

I have even got a regular New York number :-) 646 570 1796

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Re: French continental rotary telephone
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2013, 10:11:45 AM »
Your photos show a replica set made in the far east.Sometimes the terminal strip has letters on it indicating what connects there example T = transmitter, R = receiver, C= common, L1 line cord, L2 line cord.This set is a fancy copy of a danish set.

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Re: French continental rotary telephone
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2013, 10:58:09 AM »
The diagram does look similar, I figured it would be a replica as there are no markings or stickers, being in Australia makes sense that it would be from somewhere eastern. I'm really curious as to what it sounds like, any idea how much power would be needed to power the bell?

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Re: French continental rotary telephone
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2013, 11:05:29 AM »
i also found this http://www.flickr.com/photos/106158597@N06/10404557014/

but there are no other markings

Offline LarryInMichigan

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Re: French continental rotary telephone
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2013, 12:26:08 PM »
i also found this http://www.flickr.com/photos/106158597@N06/10404557014/

but there are no other markings

That's a Japanese capacitor (condenser).  I doubt that you will find a diagram specifically for this phone, but it is probably a copy of something else.  These Asian phones appeared in the tens (or hundreds) of thousands in North America in the late 1960s-1970.  They are considered nearly worthless by most collectors.

In your pictures, it looks like the ringer is missing one if its wires.  There should probably be two wires with one going to one side of the phone line and the other going to the capacitor.

Larry

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Re: French continental rotary telephone
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2013, 01:00:33 PM »
I have one , not like this and no name on and Under the phone but I keep it because it's working.. there's no cap on the dial....it sounds great in the ear....I mean the sound is loud... ;D
Denis

Offline dsk

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Re: French continental rotary telephone
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2013, 01:50:00 PM »
The diagram does look similar, I figured it would be a replica as there are no markings or stickers, being in Australia makes sense that it would be from somewhere eastern. I'm really curious as to what it sounds like, any idea how much power would be needed to power the bell?

The typical telephone ringer rings at 60-90 volts AC at a frequency of 20 30 Hz all depending on the system its designed for.

Again Depending on where in Australia you are the old standard was 240V at 50Hz (250 in northern territory). It might have been harmonized on the paper, but ....

If you put in a transformer from the mains giving some 40-90V it should vibrate, and maybe ring.  
Usually the ringer are in series with a capacitor. I'm sure the 0.9 microfarad one is the right one, so any capacitor non polarized, rated at least 200V and of a value between 0.5 and 1 microfarad will be perfect.

If you are able to follow the wires  and make a sketch of it , it should be possible to make diagram.  
You may look at the symbols on other diagrams, and copy them, or just make boxes with text as receiver, transformer, hook switch......  Just make it clear if wires just are crossing, ore are connected to each other.

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« Last Edit: October 21, 2013, 02:09:53 PM by dsk »

I have even got a regular New York number :-) 646 570 1796

Offline G-Man

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Re: French continental rotary telephone
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2013, 06:04:05 PM »

Have you connected it to a telephone line to see if it works?

I recently acquired a rotary phone for a project. I need a little help with it as I don't understand how it works, a wiring diagram would be great but any info would be appreciated I don't really know what kind of phone it is because the seller didn't seem to know and there are no markings what so ever doing a search on google shows similar phone listed "French continental" or even "radio shack French continental 43-320" thanks for any help would be appreciated. Here are some pictures of the phone and the insides

Phone:http://www.flickr.com/photos/106158597@N06/10401326046/
Inside:http://www.flickr.com/photos/106158597@N06/10401301794/
Inside:http://www.flickr.com/photos/106158597@N06/10401324436/
Plug: http://www.flickr.com/photos/106158597@N06/10401696984/
Plug Inside: http://www.flickr.com/photos/106158597@N06/10401721135/

Offline Dukevyner

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Re: French continental rotary telephone
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2013, 11:08:02 PM »
First of thanks for all the info, It does have another cable to the bell it's just hidden by the angle of the photos. I haven't been able to hook it up as honestly, I would have no idea, the plug as shown in my pictures is completely foreign to me, I've never seen anything like it, looking over all of the wiring through it does seem to be in good condition, and the mechanisms do function. Wether it actually works or not I have no clue

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Re: French continental rotary telephone
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2013, 12:29:55 AM »
First it should be connected to a telephone line before attempting to diagnose an imaginary ailment.

Others may correct me if I am wrong but the photo appears to be that of a standard Australian 505 plug which I believe has been superseded by the Western Electric RJ-series modular connectors.

In any event you will need to obtain a cord with a plug (RJ-11?) matching the connector terminated on your telephone line.

You should be able to connect it to the same terminals in the telephone set that the black and blue wires are connected to.

If the set is not working then we can diagnose it as per the symptoms that you supply the forum.


First of thanks for all the info, It does have another cable to the bell it's just hidden by the angle of the photos. I haven't been able to hook it up as honestly, I would have no idea, the plug as shown in my pictures is completely foreign to me, I've never seen anything like it, looking over all of the wiring through it does seem to be in good condition, and the mechanisms do function. Wether it actually works or not I have no clue

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Re: French continental rotary telephone
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2013, 01:03:46 AM »
I have since come across a youtube video that demonstrates how to use an adaptor to convert to an RJ-11 connector:


If you do not feel you are up to installing a new cord with an RJ-11 connector then you will need to purchase a Jackson T4990 or equivalent adaptor.

Here is another device being offered on eBay Australia that may be the item you need to adapt the plug on your telephone to a standard RJ-11 plug: