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Re: NT Alexander Graham Airplane Phone
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2014, 12:37:19 AM »
Larry:

Nortel dragged its feet on going modular for a long long time. It is possible the case had been redesigned for RJ11 but they were still going out the door hardwired.

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Re: NT Alexander Graham Airplane Phone
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2014, 12:40:18 AM »
Many of the "hardwired" sets were 1/4 modular, using a satin silver flat cord with modular plug on the wall end and spade tips inside the phone.
 
The next time you'e inside the phone, check out the inside of the housing carefully.  The first time I looked inside a hardwired set, I was excited to find "prototype" and other codes molded inside.  See an example here:
 
   http://www.paul-f.com/a/alexproto.jpg
 
I was even more excited to find similar markeings on the next hardwired set I opened.  After the fifth one, it started feeling like the markings weren't all that unusual.  Apparently they didn't bother to change the mold when they went into production.  They did change it for the modular sets, however.
 
It would be interesting to learn if others have different (or no) markings inside their hardwired sets.
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Re: NT Alexander Graham Airplane Phone
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2014, 07:27:04 AM »
I don't know if I will be opening the housing any time soon as they are a bit of a hassle to reassemble.  My phone does have the proper opening and molding for a modular connector and "USOC modular" printed on the sticker on the bottom.  The phone was a mess when I got it.  The PC board was loose and most of the wires were detached.  I assumed that whoever dismantled it took or lost the connector.  There was no line cord.  I found a spare connector in my parts supply and replaced it and gave it a standard gray modular cord.

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Re: NT Alexander Graham Airplane Phone
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2014, 08:21:10 AM »
Hopefully mine is modular at both ends. It is the handset cord, and you can see for certain in the photo it is modular at the handset end at least. I found a nice Orange Coiled Modular handset cord on Ebay from OldPhoneWorks and ordered it - a perfect match supposing the cord is modular at both ends.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/181166032872?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

They also have another, longer one listed for $12.85 plus $4 shipping:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/181166032915?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2a2e564813

They list multiples of each.

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Re: NT Alexander Graham Airplane Phone
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2014, 08:43:41 AM »
My handset cord is hard-wired on both ends, though it is flat like a modular cord.

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Re: NT Alexander Graham Airplane Phone
« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2014, 03:27:17 AM »
Hi Guys
I wondered where my post had gone ....
Mine is fully modular so it seems there is a lot of options.... Has anyone ever come across a Modular Contempra or Dawn as these were also made by NT??
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Re: NT Alexander Graham Airplane Phone
« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2014, 04:16:06 AM »
Hi Guys
I wondered where my post had gone ....
Mine is fully modular so it seems there is a lot of options.... Has anyone ever come across a Modular Contempra or Dawn as these were also made by NT??
Contempras use a special 5 wire cord, non-modular. Dawn's are modular. Larry's is the first AGB phone which I have heard of which isn't modular. It was perhaps a very early one. Regardless of the fact I haven't seen a Dawn in non-modular, it is possible too that they came non-modular in the early models.

The AGB phone is growing on me. I can understand why they are so popular. I can't wait for mine to arrive.

I suspect that NT produced this phone to commemorate the Aerial Experiment Assn under Alexander Graham ]BELL's experimental Silver Dart flown over Baddeck Bay in Nova Scotia. It had its inaugural flight on February 23, 1909 over the Lake. Today, many photos of it and its flight may still be seen at Beinn Bhreagh in Baddeck, Cape Breton, Bell's summer home and AGB museum. I have placed photos of Alexander and Mabel and of Alexander's funeral elsewhere on the forum. His interests went far beyond the telephone.

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=8947.msg95827#msg95827



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Re: Contempra Handset Cords
« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2014, 08:39:48 PM »
For whatever it's worth, here is a picture of the bottom of my plane phone.

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Re: NT Alexander Graham Airplane Phone
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2014, 01:05:29 PM »
I just did some splitting and merging to put most of the Contempra's handset cord is discussion into a topic started yesterday by Poplar1.

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=11323.0

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Re: NT Alexander Graham Airplane Phone
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2014, 09:18:45 AM »
My Alexander Graham Airplane phone arrived this morning in good condition, and I have the new orange handset cord on it replacing the white one someone had placed on it. The white one had only been recently put on it - it still had the folds in the cord from the packaging. This is the first time I saw one in person, and it is larger than I expected - about the size of a 500 set... Great shape!

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Re: NT Alexander Graham Airplane Phone
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2014, 09:43:24 AM »
I am glad to see that it arrived safely.  That phone is quite large and bulky.  It definitely does not fit well on a crowded desktop.  Mine spends nearly all of its time on the display shelf.  One of these days, I will probably sell it.

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Re: NT Alexander Graham Airplane Phone
« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2014, 09:53:09 AM »
To clear your desktop, and since the prop seems to be turning, you could suspend it using fish line.
 
A mobile made using the three different colors would be striking.
 
Or several of the camoflage units flying in formation...
 
Sound effect tracks from movies, like "Flying Leathernecks" would complete the image.
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Re: NT Alexander Graham Airplane Phone
« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2014, 02:30:01 PM »

A mobile made using the three different colors would be striking.
 
Or several of the camoflage units flying in formation...
 

Guess that would make it a mobile phone ! :)

Perhaps you could also hang a Snoopy phone with them and you could have a dogfight.
 
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Re: NT Alexander Graham Airplane Phone
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2014, 05:57:11 PM »
Is there a wiring diagram for this phone?  I have one and the ringer has been unplugged, and I can't find any logical terminals to plug it back into.  Don't see a diagram on the TCI website.
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