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Offline Jack Ryan

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Re: Please verify AE34A3B?
« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2015, 09:37:28 PM »
I don't believe in the "development" hypothesis per se, but surely they must have considered the experience with all variant for the design of the Type 40.

No, I don't any longer either. I think the AE 34A3A was intended as a compatible offering for AE 34A3 users. In the end, it was not a success and the AE 34A3B replaced it.

Experience with the handle of the AE 34A3A probably convinced AE not to use it for the 40

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Re: Please verify AE34A3B?
« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2015, 09:37:52 PM »
Although I have no proof, I believe these came out after the model 40, fitted with a carry handle to use up old shells.  Never throw anything away? 
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Re: Please verify AE34A3B?
« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2015, 09:49:13 PM »
1934:  4055
1937:  4055A
1939:                You mentioned 1939 - I wondered if that was the year of 4055B. I don't have one.
1940:  4055C
1944:  4055D

Do you have PDF files?

Yes, it is not a good copy. I don't know where it came from so I hope I am not betraying someone's trust...

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Re: Please verify AE34A3B?
« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2015, 09:49:55 PM »
Is there a PDF version of 4033?

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Re: Please verify AE34A3B?
« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2015, 09:53:30 PM »
Here you go-       http://tinyurl.com/ld88z7d           stub



The 4055 A is mine or Terrys' can't remember when we or me posted it ;D
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Re: Please verify AE34A3B?
« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2015, 09:58:42 PM »
Here you go-       http://tinyurl.com/ld88z7d           stub

Thanks!

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Re: Please verify AE34A3B?
« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2015, 10:07:27 PM »
1934:  4055
1937:  4055A
1939:                You mentioned 1939 - I wondered if that was the year of 4055B. I don't have one.
1940:  4055C
1944:  4055D

Do you have PDF files?

Yes, it is not a good copy. I don't know where it came from so I hope I am not betraying someone's trust...

Jack

Thanks much!
I can't keep track of where I get my files from either. It would take a full-time librarian.

Quality is good enough for information, nice to have but it sure doesn't provide any drastically new info.

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Re: Please verify AE34A3B?
« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2015, 10:14:17 PM »
The dial in Tina's telephone seems to be a No. 51, I think.
So this was a replacement in the 1950s, perhaps along with the black rubber cords.

No. 51 is probably also supported by the type of number card installed on the dial.  This has the two-line medium height printing area (1950), the larger one came out in 1955. Before 1950 there was only room for one line of print.

Tina:  Is there a date on the paper label around the cord?
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Re: Please verify AE34A3B?
« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2015, 10:55:18 AM »
I posted a topic in the wiring diagram section with the circuit diagram for these telephone types and some discussion of the circuit.

Here is a linked image of the circuit, which also shows the difference between the sets for grounded ringing vs. metallic ringing.

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Re: Please verify AE34A3B?
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2015, 05:01:39 PM »
You decide.  You could keep your existing handset and a very nice phone for cheap, or for another $40 or so you could have a real beauty.
Stub,
After looking around on the internet, I have only found one type-38 handset at opw for $112 + shipping.  Do you know of other sources for these handsets?  I would like it to have the chrome rings to match the chrome finger wheel.  I will put it in the classified ads under wanted here at CRP.

Tina
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Re: Please verify AE34A3B?
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2015, 05:19:38 PM »
You decide.  You could keep your existing handset and a very nice phone for cheap, or for another $40 or so you could have a real beauty.
Stub,
After looking around on the internet, I have only found one type-38 handset at opw for $112 + shipping.  Do you know of other sources for these handsets?  I would like it to have the chrome rings to match the chrome finger wheel.  I will put it in the classified ads under wanted here at CRP.

Tina

Well, patience is a virtue!  ;D

These kind of items rarely show up right when you think you need them.  I would be patient and set up an automatic search on eBay.  Sometimes they show up for less than you expect, but you have to be patient.  I would not call them rare.
Often I see one with some other "junk" as a bundle, I think a couple of weeks ago there was one and the whole pile was less than $30.

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Re: Please verify AE34A3B?
« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2015, 06:36:02 PM »
The dial in Tina's telephone seems to be a No. 51, I think.
So this was a replacement in the 1950s, perhaps along with the black rubber cords.

No. 51 is probably also supported by the type of number card installed on the dial.  This has the two-line medium height printing area (1950), the larger one came out in 1955. Before 1950 there was only room for one line of print.

Tina:  Is there a date on the paper label around the cord?

Sorry, no date on the paper label.

If the phone has a No. 51 dial, what does the 60-C and 43 printed on the back of the dial mean?

Tina
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Re: Please verify AE34A3B?
« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2015, 07:11:49 PM »
The dial in Tina's telephone seems to be a No. 51, I think.
So this was a replacement in the 1950s, perhaps along with the black rubber cords.

No. 51 is probably also supported by the type of number card installed on the dial.  This has the two-line medium height printing area (1950), the larger one came out in 1955. Before 1950 there was only room for one line of print.

Tina:  Is there a date on the paper label around the cord?

Sorry, no date on the paper label.

If the phone has a No. 51 dial, what does the 60-C and 43 printed on the back of the dial mean?

Tina

I don't know, and I haven't read that anyone else really knows.
A lot of time gets spent decoding a lot of these marks that companies put on their devices.  Many we just don't know, especially those by the independents.  The Bell System had an amazing system of documentation, and we still don't know some of their codes either.

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Re: Please verify AE34A3B? Update:AE34A3A
« Reply #43 on: September 05, 2015, 12:17:49 PM »
When I posted photos of my set, I could not find this information in my files.Copied from Telephony or Telephone Engineering and Management 1938.Did not write down the exact date- This was 25 years ago
The type 40 might have been a few months sooner
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Re: Please verify AE34A3B? Update:AE34A3A
« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2015, 01:11:34 PM »
When I posted photos of my set, I could not find this information in my files.Copied from Telephony or Telephone Engineering and Management 1938.Did not write down the exact date- This was 25 years ago
The type 40 might have been a few months sooner

Excellent find!  Thanks for posting.