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Offline rbouch

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2 NE 1945 Metal 302s
« on: October 10, 2015, 04:40:58 PM »
Here are a couple of 1945 Metal Northern Electric 302s I picked up.  The one with the "Wait for Dial Tone" dial centre I am inclined to get power coated, the one with "empire8-" dial centre I am inclined to leave alone.

"Wait for Dial Tone" has dates that all line up on induction coil, ringer, dial and handset to the last week or so of December 45. The actual base is marked April 45.

"Empire8-" has dates that all line up around hallowe'en of 45.  The actual base is also marked April 45.

Neither phone has been touched at this point, I am just about to start working on them.  "Wait for Dial Tone"is actually flaking off bits of black paint,  the other one is not.

Any opinions/advice on the repaint idea?

Offline rbouch

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Re: 2 NE 1945 Metal 302s
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2015, 04:42:23 PM »
I meant powder coated.
I hate touchpad.... >:(

Offline NorthernElectric

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Re: 2 NE 1945 Metal 302s
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2015, 08:45:00 PM »
Nice find.  Did you get them together?
Cliff

Offline rbouch

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Re: 2 NE 1945 Metal 302s
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2015, 09:18:56 PM »
No, but I found one literally around the corner from the other about a week apart.

Offline WEBellSystemChristian

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Re: 2 NE 1945 Metal 302s
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2015, 10:42:36 PM »
Great finds!!! I agree, the one on the right should be left alone paint wise.

I suggest getting the one on the left sandblasted and then powdercoated. If you send it to someone to get it coated, ask for 'mirror black' or 'gloss black'. I've seen a lot of coatings advertised as plain black that turn out to be more of a flat black.

If you have your own powdercoater, but want advice on what type of powder to use, I recommend 'Mirror Black' by Columbia Coatings. That stuff is just incredible, you couldn't get a better finish with regular paint in terms of durability, gloss level, etc. If you do it right, it looks just beautiful!

I used it recently on my WE411:

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=15046.0
Christian Petterson

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Offline rbouch

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Re: 2 NE 1945 Metal 302s
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2015, 08:43:11 AM »
Thanks Christian,

I had already had a look at your 411.  in fact that's what made me post the pictures.  If I can get this phone to look like that 'll be really pleased,

Offline rbouch

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Re: 2 NE 1945 Metal 302s
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2015, 10:09:25 PM »
Here is the end result

Empire 8 polished with black automotive wax

Wait for Dial Tone powder coated.  Christian, I took your advice and went with the highest gloss I could get.

The chrome bands are from OPW. Couldn't resist.

Finish sure looks the same to me.

Offline andre_janew

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Re: 2 NE 1945 Metal 302s
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2015, 01:23:10 PM »
It looks like you've changed the dial plate on Empire 8.  I don't remember seeing a Z on it earlier.

Offline rbouch

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Re: 2 NE 1945 Metal 302s
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2015, 03:21:37 PM »
Yes, it had a 150b from '51 on it (I think) and this one is from 1947, so I thought it matched the remainder of the phone's '45 dates better.

Offline NorthernElectric

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Re: 2 NE 1945 Metal 302s
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2015, 06:48:42 PM »
Looking good...

The chrome bands are from OPW. Couldn't resist.

...but I'm thinking you need to chrome the fingerwheel and finger stop now.   :D
Cliff

Offline rbouch

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Re: 2 NE 1945 Metal 302s
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2015, 07:38:40 PM »
Ha!
Just did that to my uniphone,
Speaking of which, just picked up another on eBay ( see below)

Offline Brinybay

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Re: 2 NE 1945 Metal 302s
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2015, 02:23:02 PM »
Here is the end result

Wait for Dial Tone powder coated. 


Does powder coating still leave stamped markings visible? IOW, how thick is powder coating?
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Offline WEBellSystemChristian

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Re: 2 NE 1945 Metal 302s
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2015, 03:09:47 PM »
Here is the end result

Wait for Dial Tone powder coated. 


Does powder coating still leave stamped markings visible? IOW, how thick is powder coating?
Like painting, it all depends on how much you apply.

The powder comes out of a gun similar to a paint gun, but it 'floats' out (for lack of a better term) rather than spraying. It does tend to come out a bit thicker than a thin layer of paint, and it does hide markings a little more than paint. If you put a very thin layer on without showing any of the metal underneath (takes a lot of experience) it will show the stamping, but not as sharply as painting might. The upside is: if you make a mistake while applying the powder, you can always blow the powder off and immediately start over,

If durability is a factor, hands down, 100%, the powder coating is the best option.
Christian Petterson

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Offline rbouch

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Re: 2 NE 1945 Metal 302s
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2015, 10:40:11 PM »
The shell of this one was corroded enough stampings were no issue at all