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unbeldi

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Re: WE 302 commemorative phone won on eBay
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2015, 11:55:41 AM »
Thanks and if I'm not mistaken and my ex Father in law didn't lie to me (he worked in that CO) the bricked the windows up in the mid to late 70s early 80s due to the natives attacking the building. According to him they used to steal a van or two a month from the lot or the garage in that district...

"the new" AT&T has quite a few 1As floating around. They usually upgrade them after a natural or man made disaster. :o

Sorry to all for the thread being hijacked.... we now return you to your normally scheduled thread......  8)

I think there are only about 50 or 60 of  the 1AESS systems left.
Mark Cuccia researched this some years ago and posted a list:  It can be seen here: 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/centraloffice/conversations/messages/6276

The St. Louis systems were still listed there too.

Offline Doug Rose

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Re: WE 302 commemorative phone won on eBay
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2015, 09:08:01 AM »
WE 302s with matching dates are very desirable as they have not been touched since they were made. With Date Matching 302s, I have never seen a WE Black 302 with a #6 dial that matched and I have opened a few 302s.  All Black 302s I have seen with matching dates either had a 4H or a 5H in them. 5302s had the refurbed 5H,  5M in them. I have seen 6A in them as well, but dates will never match in a 5302. I did have one Ivory 302 with a date matching 6D this was a mid 50's set and I no longer own it.

Has anyone seen a date matching Black 302 set with a 6A in it? ....Doug
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unbeldi

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Re: WE 302 commemorative phone won on eBay
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2015, 10:17:00 AM »
WE 302s with matching dates are very desirable as they have not been touched since they were made. With Date Matching 302s, I have never seen a WE Black 302 with a #6 dial that matched and I have opened a few 302s.  All Black 302s I have seen with matching dates either had a 4H or a 5H in them. 5302s had the refurbed 5H,  5M in them. I have seen 6A in them as well, but dates will never match in a 5302. I did have one Ivory 302 with a date matching 6D this was a mid 50's set and I no longer own it.

Has anyone seen a date matching Black 302 set with a 6A in it? ....Doug

The No. 6 dial apparently was announced in Fall of 1952.

It appears that the 6D dial was used on the colored sets starting in April or May 1953, but no 5J dials appear to be made anymore after 12/52. Indeed, I have several date-matched COLORED 302s going into 1954 with 6D dials.

But as you say, with 5H vs. 6A dials, it is less clear to me.  An Ohio Bell announcement stated as of August 1952 that No. 6 dials were used "on most 300-type telephone sets", but it seems rather rare to find black 302s dated 1953 or 1954. Production must have been reduced already greatly in favor of the 500-set.

The colored 302s still seem plentiful in 1953 and early 1954, because the colored 500 sets were not available yet until beginning 1954 it seems.  302 production seems to have stopped entirely by May or June or so of 1954.  307 sets were still made into 1956 or 57.
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Re: WE 302 commemorative phone won on eBay
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2015, 11:29:45 AM »
thanks Karl....good information....Doug
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