Author Topic: RotaTone & Dial Gizmo Pulse to Tone Converters  (Read 16526 times)

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Re: RotaTone & Dial Gizmo Pulse to Tone Converters
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2017, 10:50:36 PM »
Thank you!

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Re: RotaTone & Dial Gizmo Pulse to Tone Converters
« Reply #31 on: December 26, 2017, 10:16:21 PM »
I have 2 dialgizmos in use. One at the cabin making a WE500 working on a gsm adapter. (Also used for an alarm system)

The other one is in use with a 1930 Standard telephone with reverse dial. This one is connected to a 24V system, and requires a full short (shunt) of the line when the dial is used.

The only unit I have tested witch dont work at all with the dialgizmo is an Ericsson pabx sending pulses.

I have generally trouble sending redial, * and #.

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What is a reverse dial? I think I once had a Kellogg or Leitch that instead of pulses breaking contact, it did the reverse. Is that what you refer to?
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Re: RotaTone & Dial Gizmo Pulse to Tone Converters
« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2017, 04:58:42 AM »
Reverce dial is a dial with numbers "the wrong way" used in NZ and Oslo:



In addition to that Sweden have their own system.


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« Last Edit: December 28, 2017, 03:52:27 PM by TelePlay »

I have even got a regular New York number :-) 646 570 1796

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Re: RotaTone & Dial Gizmo Pulse to Tone Converters
« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2017, 12:23:30 PM »
Did a two month student tour of Europe in the summer of 1983. We stayed in the university dorms while visiting Oslo Norway. Each room had a backwards dial phone on the wall just inside the doorway I think.

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Re: RotaTone & Dial Gizmo Pulse to Tone Converters
« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2017, 04:17:10 PM »
I'll guess it was one like this with right positioned dial and reversed hung on the wall:


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« Last Edit: December 28, 2017, 03:50:18 PM by TelePlay »

I have even got a regular New York number :-) 646 570 1796

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Re: RotaTone & Dial Gizmo Pulse to Tone Converters
« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2017, 08:47:48 PM »
A “convertible”! I can’t recall for certain. I think I have a picture somewhere in my 35 years ago file.

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Re: RotaTone & Dial Gizmo Pulse to Tone Converters
« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2017, 10:15:05 PM »
The xlink bluetooth gateway supports rotary pulse.
http://www.myxlink.com/store.aspx
 I think it is a valid solution for many collectors.
You can dial out on your  rotary telephones  using a  bluetooth connection on your cellphone(s).
 there is a version that also has landline as well as bluetooth.
You can buy find them on ebay as well.
Another option,
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Re: RotaTone & Dial Gizmo Pulse to Tone Converters
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2017, 04:03:23 PM »
has anyone tried the 25 dollar chinese units on ebay?
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Re: RotaTone & Dial Gizmo Pulse to Tone Converters
« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2017, 05:45:59 PM »
has anyone tried the 25 dollar chinese units on ebay?

I think he means these. Neat, compact package. No link or image posted. These are around $25 plus around $10 shipping from China.

     https://www.ebay.com/itm/Telephone-Module-Pulse-Transfer-Dual-Tone-Multiple-Frequency-DTMF-Converter-Plus/172604430176

     https://www.ebay.com/itm/Telephone-Module-Pulse-Transfer-Dual-Tone-Multiple-Frequency-DTMF-Converter-Plus/182510911211
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Re: RotaTone & Dial Gizmo Pulse to Tone Converters
« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2017, 08:38:05 PM »
Those seem pretty cool. You should be able to use 1 as a whole house unit.
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Re: RotaTone & Dial Gizmo Pulse to Tone Converters
« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2017, 09:07:01 PM »
This eBay listing (screen captured above)

     https://www.ebay.com/itm/Telephone-Module-Pulse-Transfer-Dual-Tone-Multiple-Frequency-DTMF-Converter-Plus/182510911211

shows images of two different boards, one seems to be Dialor2 (#2 below) and the other a Dialor2O (#1 below) and by reading the description, it might be a Dialor2.0 but with a funny "0."

Just guessing, I would say the Dialor2 image was included to show how the wiring is attached.

Anyone familiar enough with Dialgizmo and Rotatone to tell which one is most like this unit?

(Note, the web site on the board (www.163.com) is just a Chinese news site, nothing to do with the item.
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Re: RotaTone & Dial Gizmo Pulse to Tone Converters
« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2018, 01:59:35 PM »
My post here was not specific to any one unit on ebay rather that there are several and they do not all look alike. Therefore I did not link to any.
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« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2018, 02:16:19 PM »
My post here was not specific to any one unit on ebay rather that there are several and they do not all look alike. Therefore I did not link to any.

In that price range, I found 6 sellers with all prices about $30 including shipping and all but selling the Dialor2.0 and one selling the Dialor2.

They all look alike and vary in price a few bucks. If there is another converter that is different from this style, please post the links so we can compare. The are others but not in the price range you stated. The others that I found are in the $35 to $60 range with shipping.

The following all look alike.

Dialor2.0  (based on circuit board identification)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Telephone-Module-Pulse-Transfer-Dual-Tone-Multiple-Frequency-DTMF-Converter-Plus/182510911211
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Telephone-Module-Pulse-Transfer-Dual-Tone-Multiple-Frequency-DTMF-Converter-Plus/172604430176
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Telephone-Module-Pulse-Transfer-Dual-Tone-Multiple-Frequency-DTMF-Converter-New/332170755753
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Telephone-Module-Pulse-Transfer-Dual-Tone-Multiple-Frequency-DTMF-Converter-New/152834000911
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Telephone-Module-Pulse-Transfer-Dual-Tone-Multiple-Frequency-DTMF-Converter-New/272949688069

Dialor 2  (based on circuit board identification)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/telephone-module-Pulse-transfer-dual-tone-multiple-frequency-DTMF-converter/182312521289
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Re: RotaTone & Dial Gizmo Pulse to Tone Converters
« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2018, 03:08:05 PM »
This one seems to be the same as a DialGizmo, maybe even a straight copy. 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Pulse-transfer-dual-tone-multiple-frequency-DTMF-converter-normal-version-The-old-dial-telephone-pulse-dual/32708026890.html

I've never owned a RotorTone, DialGizmo or Dialor2 and am going on the manuals; the Dialor2 one is in Chinese but I got the gist via Google Translate. 

The snag for me is that both a DialGizmo or a Dialor2 come from overseas and cost more than £16 so are liable for Import VAT and the charges associated therewith.  The tax itself would be peanuts but the fee for collecting it isn't.

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Re: RotaTone & Dial Gizmo Pulse to Tone Converters
« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2018, 03:25:21 PM »
Thank you.

What you found is identical to the last link in reply #42 above. It shows images of what appears to be the Dialor2 but the upper left image of the collage states Dialor2.0, a different circuit board than shown.

The same image is posted at the last link of reply #42, this link.

     https://www.ebay.com/itm/telephone-module-Pulse-transfer-dual-tone-multiple-frequency-DTMF-converter/182312521289

The 2 vs 2.0 were taken from the id printed on the PC board itself. I assume the 2.0 is newer, not necessarily better, just different.
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