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Western Electric 2AE Dial???
« on: June 16, 2016, 08:07:32 PM »
Lousy pictures. How did they get it on a 202? I bit, phone is just a junker. Hopefully not too much damage to the dial. Face plate??? I hope I didn't throw $65 away!! Is the finger stop just bent? That's why they call it gambling  :-\...Doug

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Re: Western Electric 2AE Dial???
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2016, 08:20:53 PM »
The FS is bent and screwed onto the housing.

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Re: Western Electric 2AE Dial???
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2016, 10:39:17 PM »
Here's another 2AA that "don't fit."
On a 302F, purchased last month for $29.95 + 11.15 shipping.
Has original 132-A number plate (no notch).



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Re: Western Electric 2AE Dial???
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2016, 12:31:21 AM »
Definitely another interesting 'make it fit' modification for the #2 dial!

This sounds a little crazy, but I'd keep the D1 as-is with the bent finger stop (cleaned up, of course)! It has the class of a B1 and #2 and the smooth lines of a D1!
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Re: Western Electric 2AE Dial???
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2016, 07:00:19 AM »
The FS is bent and screwed onto the housing.
Karl...that is what I was hoping!.....thanks...Doug
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Re: Western Electric 2AE Dial???
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2016, 08:29:07 PM »
Here's another 2AA that "don't fit."
On a 302F, purchased last month for $29.95 + 11.15 shipping.
Has original 132-A number plate (no notch).



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Western-Electric-Telephone-Rotary-Dial-woven-cord-/282031596492
David....how did you ever spot a #2 dial on that beat up 302?? I saw the auction, saw the crack and kept on going. Good eyes!
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Re: Western Electric 2AE Dial???
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2016, 08:45:21 PM »
I guess I took a chance on it. Maybe it was the nickel plated number card holder, with perforated card (that could also be used on non-dial desk stands by tearing off the edges).
If you look closely, you can see that the finger stop is not internally mounted, as in 4H or 5H.

Also, since it has an F1W (non-Bell) handset, it's less likely that it would have had a dial that had been converted from 2A to 4H -- which are sometimes found on Bell System 302s that made their way back to the WE Repair Shops. It probably would also have lost its fabric cords had it gone back to the shop.

Not sure who installed the dial that way! If it has friction tape (rather than electrical tape) on the slate-red jumper wire -- since there is no R terminal on a 2A dial -- then I'd bet the 2A dial was installed by a telephone repairman, who didn't have a spare 5H on his truck.  (I've been known to install green cords on beige 2565s at work, rather than go back to the storeroom. We used to get chewed out for being in the shop after 8:30 or before 4:15.)
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Re: Western Electric 2AE Dial???
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2016, 11:38:55 PM »
Only one side photo posted in the listing, the finger stop side . . .

Could even be a notchless number plate, maybe. Nice find.
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Re: Western Electric 2AE Dial???
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2016, 08:32:09 AM »
 Yes, it has a notchless 132-A number p!ate.
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Re: Western Electric 2AE Dial???
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2016, 09:39:57 AM »
Yes, it has a notchless 132-A number p!ate.

Ooooops! Missed that above. Actually, read it when first posted and just forgot, an old age thing.
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Re: Western Electric 2AE Dial???
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2016, 12:58:34 PM »
Do you have any idea how long these phones have had their #2 dials? 

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Re: Western Electric 2AE Dial???
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2016, 08:06:08 PM »
Definitely another interesting 'make it fit' modification for the #2 dial!

This sounds a little crazy, but I'd keep the D1 as-is with the bent finger stop (cleaned up, of course)! It has the class of a B1 and #2 and the smooth lines of a D1!
Christian....I got the phone today and I just briefly looked at it. Dial is in amazing condition. Finger stop is bent and screwed into the D1 Base as Karl had said. Dial plate looks really good and worth the price along. I will look at it and see if maybe I can keep this as is and just clean it up. Thanks for your input....Doug
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Re: Western Electric 2AE Dial???
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2016, 01:28:25 PM »
The D1 base was shot, dents and corrosion. I carefully removed the 2AE finger stop that was screwed into the base, then the dial. I was surprised at how good the original paint was around the patents. The dial plate was  covered with like a lacquer that was an absolute bitch to remove with all the layers of dirt underneath, it took me two hours with q-tips and Noxon. It was well worth it and it is as close to perfect as you could bet for this beauty. A bent the finger stop back as much as I dared, the are sturdy.

Screws don't match, but they hold it on. I am looking for a nice brass finger wheel with like new paint that I put somewhere for safe keeping!  :-\

I am very pleased with this dial...Doug
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Re: Western Electric 2AE Dial???
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2016, 03:27:56 PM »
Is a 2AE just a 2AA with the party line dial plate and the 2AE finger stop?...thanks...Doug
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Re: Western Electric 2AE Dial???
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2016, 04:57:40 PM »
It's just a 2A-type dial, which includes 2AA, 2AB, 2AE, etc.

The 132-E plate and fnger stop marked 2AE indicate that it's a 2AE dial.

Used in areas with a mixture of manual and dial central offices, so that the subscriber could dial the party line letter
J, M, R, or W at the end of a manual telephone number. The letters weren't part of phone numbers for lines served by "machine switching."
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