Author Topic: SIEMENS ANTIQUE RETRO SIEMENS TYPE BAKELITE TELEPHONE DISC  (Read 2367 times)

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This sure is cool!

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Re: SIEMENS ANTIQUE RETRO SIEMENS TYPE BAKELITE TELEPHONE DISC
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2016, 09:25:55 AM »
Woaaaaa! A Hockender Hund (Squatting dog). Ultra rare.

One piece telephone by S&H.

Strange picture, as it sits on its seperate bell housing.
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Re: SIEMENS ANTIQUE RETRO SIEMENS TYPE BAKELITE TELEPHONE DISC
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2016, 10:18:06 AM »
I was about to write something too, after the auction finishes.

Made in the late 1930s.
Could be called a forerunner of the Ericofon.   The hookswitch is active when the handset is lifted from the table.

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Re: SIEMENS ANTIQUE RETRO SIEMENS TYPE BAKELITE TELEPHONE DISC
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2016, 12:38:41 PM »
Where's the transmitter?
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2016, 01:13:04 PM »
Where's the transmitter?

The transmitter is sort of on the narrow edge in the lower part.  The housing has a pattern of sound holes to permit sound to reach it.

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Re: SIEMENS ANTIQUE RETRO SIEMENS TYPE BAKELITE TELEPHONE DISC
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2016, 02:50:53 PM »
Quite the finish. Rose from $600 and change with 2 minutes to go to $4,049, most of that in the last few seconds popping from $1,025 to the end price.

And, once again, the phone went home to one of the two last second snipers with their first and only bid of the auction, g***s ( 387 ).
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Re: SIEMENS ANTIQUE RETRO SIEMENS TYPE BAKELITE TELEPHONE DISC
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2016, 05:33:55 PM »
I was wondering when someone was going to mention this auction.  My bid didn't even get a chance to go in.  I was under the impression that these were made in the 1960s... were they really made pre-WWII?

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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2016, 05:46:49 PM »
I was wondering when someone was going to mention this auction.  My bid didn't even get a chance to go in.  I was under the impression that these were made in the 1960s... were they really made pre-WWII?

I think originally this had the informal designation Modell 29, so it may have been made as early as 1929.
This one I think was made in 1938. The ringer box is marked T9. 
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2016, 05:56:34 PM »
As far as I know only 500 were produced as a pre-production series. I think for field test purposes. They were all made in 1929. I cannot see any date markings I recognise on the phone itself in these pictures.

Please note the ringer box is a standard external ringer. That model was for a number of years and may not be original to the phone.

Besides that, S&H phones from this period seldom have a date code on the outside. None of mine have, anyway. The earliest external date code in my collection start in 1930.
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2016, 05:58:23 PM »
Other than the shape, the remarkable feature of this phone is perhaps the dial, which worked much like the dial in the Trimline, having a moving finger stop.

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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2016, 06:02:48 PM »
As far as I know only 500 were produced as a pre-production series. I think for field test purposes. They were all made in 1929. I cannot see any date markings I recognise on the phone itself in these pictures.

Please note the ringer box is a standard external ringer. That model was for a number of years and may not be original to the phone.

Besides that, S&H phones from this period seldom have a date code on the outside. None of mine have, anyway. The earliest external date code in my collection start in 1930.

Hmm, indeed the ringer box may not belong to the phone.

The date codes by Siemens started with A = 1920, and I have seen them used on equipment, switchboards, etc, e.g. a Klappenschrank, in the 20s.

The handset is stamped F24, which seems doubtful as a date.  F would be 1925, but 24 makes no sense.
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2016, 06:19:52 PM »
Carl, I meant to say that I have no S&H phone with a date code on the outside from before 1930. They do have plenty of those codes on the inside.
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Re: SIEMENS ANTIQUE RETRO SIEMENS TYPE BAKELITE TELEPHONE DISC
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2016, 06:40:05 PM »
$4K for the phone & $120 shipping! that would be the last $4K phone I ever bought, my wife would take my PayPal acct away ;-)
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2016, 06:46:47 PM »
Ah ok, Arwin, I got it.


The bell box is marked

Fg.bk.158a

Fg = telephone apparatus (Fernsprechgerät)
bk = subset  (BeiKasten)

Where these designations even used in 1920s?  I doubt it.

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Re: SIEMENS ANTIQUE RETRO SIEMENS TYPE BAKELITE TELEPHONE DISC
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2016, 04:43:48 PM »
And it pops up again from the same guy...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SIEMENS-ham-bone-Ericofon-ANTIQUE-RETRO-SIEMENS-TYPE-BAKELITE-TELEPH-DISC-1929-/222176707354   ?hash=item33bac3831a:g:WwYAAOSwhOVXeqqf

Highly priced, Ukraine.... mmm. 
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