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Re: AE 80 with a code "87"
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2016, 11:58:52 AM »
I don't think they were ever dated from Brockville.
I don't know, but probably not.

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By 1958 the 80's being manufactured were being dated so I guess Northlake did it on the last of the 40's they made as well. That was about when Northlake opened wasn't it?
Yes, Northlake apparently opened in 1957.

See here for date stamp on AE 40

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Re: AE 80 with a code "87"
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2016, 12:11:28 PM »
The date format on your 40 is exactly the same format that they settled on for the AE 80's. I guess they played with it a bit before settling on a date format that ultimately lasted from late 50's through to about 1975.

It seems somewhat surprising that they continued making Bakelite 40's after moving into the new Northlake plant when 80's were already in full production. If they still needed small quantities of 40's they could have brought them from AE Canada. On the other hand the new 80's still had Bakelite handsets initially so they were still molding Bakelite and already owned all the equipment so I guess they just moved it to the new plant and carried on with production.

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Re: AE 80 with a code "87"
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2017, 10:53:59 PM »
One of the AE47's in my AE Base Code Excel record quite closely matches your oddly numbered AE80. It is H870 661-3 and then has the new format date code 8-57-8. It is a Chicago 7 phone not a Northlake phone. Same month that AE's Head Office address changed from Chicago 7 to Northlake. Manufacturing may have already been moved to Northlake or would be moving over the next few months.

I assumed that the 87xx numbering was some quirk of 47 sets preparing to change over to the new 87 sets but now it looks as though H87xxx coded sets might be similar to the Z coded sets that have codes that don't fit the normal pattern. Maybe phones with the RFI suppressor built into the dial?

I have records for 10 different 47 sets. One H 870661-3 set, one N4020 B0 RO1 set, two L4106 ESL XAC sets, four L4111 ASL sets, two Z22749 A1 BU sets and one Z23615 1 ON8 set.

From an ordering manual for the AE47 (see picture) it mentions these two relay accessories that both begin with H88 so it seems that H8xx numbers are special assemblies.

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Re: AE 80 with a code "87"
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2017, 08:11:11 AM »
I have records for 10 different 47 sets. One H 870661-3 set, one N4020 B0 RO1 set, two L4106 ESL XAC sets, four L4111 ASL sets, two Z22749 A1 BU sets and one Z23615 1 ON8 set.


Seems to me that perhaps the N4020 had its base plate replaced. I suppose it could be possible to not have a dial (B0) on a two or three-line telephone, but really?    4020 is a fairly common code on standard single line sets.

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Re: AE 80 with a code "87"
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2017, 01:42:41 AM »
I will have to take a closer look at it to see if there is any evidence of a baseplate swap. As we know, anything is possible!

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