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Re: AE 40, 47 & 50 Base Code Observations (2017!)
« Reply #180 on: January 08, 2017, 10:10:19 PM »
Ah....very good! I went back and added that to my color codes post a few post back. I know one set isn't a very large sample size but I'm feeling pretty confident that this part of the coding is correct. I have two friends here each with several colored AE sets that I will work towards checking out soon.

Do you have any more info than what you gave already on that Orchid set Unbeldi? I may add it to my list as it isn't going to be very often that any details on an Orchid set will be available.

It's been a good day!

Terry

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Re: AE 40, 47 & 50 Base Code Observations (2017!)
« Reply #181 on: January 08, 2017, 10:14:34 PM »
Dear Unbeldi:

That's good finding the code for orchid, now if the other colors start turning up aside from what's been located so far, that leaves Black, Walnut, Mahogany, Royal Blue and Maroon.

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Re: AE 40, 47 & 50 Base Code Observations (2017!)
« Reply #182 on: January 08, 2017, 10:27:03 PM »
Ah....very good! I went back and added that to my color codes post a few post back. I know one set isn't a very large sample size but I'm feeling pretty confident that this part of the coding is correct. I have two friends here each with several colored AE sets that I will work towards checking out soon.

Do you have any more info than what you gave already on that Orchid set Unbeldi? I may add it to my list as it isn't going to be very often that any details on an Orchid set will be available.

It's been a good day!

Terry
I'll keep looking...   Some more will turn up, perhaps I'll find some color sets in the basement, lol.  :o

Blue, chrome trim everywhere:

Z 18462  67         NR7           D-780503-A18

Clearly a frequency ringer

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252003240770
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Re: AE 40, 47 & 50 Base Code Observations (2017!)
« Reply #183 on: January 08, 2017, 10:32:53 PM »
Interesting that the Orchid is an L4044. I have three L404x sets on the list so far, two are 4044 and one is 4045 and all three are colored sets.

I have one D set, D4045 and it is a Chinese Red set. I am wondering if the D might be an error as the second code is D20F. Maybe the first code starting with D was an error. It goes way back in my recording this stuff.

Some of the listed L4123 sets are colored sets and All 7 of my listed L4124 and L4125 sets are colored sets.

I have three N4022 sets listed, all colored sets.

Both my listed N4025 sets are colored.

I have 12 40's listed that the first base code has more than one letter, PL, PN, SL, SN. None of them are colored sets.

So, there seem to be certain assigned 40 and 41 sequences that are predominantly colored sets. A possibility exists that something in there could refer to the metal trim finish as ALL colored sets have either Chrome or matte gold finish on the metal pieces.

Terry

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Re: AE 40, 47 & 50 Base Code Observations (2017!)
« Reply #184 on: January 08, 2017, 10:35:24 PM »
Dear Unbeldi:

Could "N" be the code for Royal Blue, do you suppose? I'm not saying it is, but it appears  to fit what we're seeing so far.

Keep us posted,
RotoTech99

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Re: AE 40, 47 & 50 Base Code Observations (2017!)
« Reply #185 on: January 08, 2017, 10:41:44 PM »
Interesting that the Orchid is an L4044. I have three L404x sets on the list so far, two are 4044 and one is 4045 and all three are colored sets.

I have one D set, D4045 and it is a Chinese Red set. I am wondering if the D might be an error as the second code is D20F. Maybe the first code starting with D was an error. It goes way back in my recording this stuff.

Some of the listed L4123 sets are colored sets and All 7 of my listed L4124 and L4125 sets are colored sets.

I have three N4022 sets listed, all colored sets.

Both my listed N4025 sets are colored.

I have 12 40's listed that the first base code has more than one letter, PL, PN, SL, SN. None of them are colored sets.

So, there seem to be certain assigned 40 and 41 sequences that are predominantly colored sets. A possibility exists that something in there could refer to the metal trim finish as ALL colored sets have either Chrome or matte gold finish on the metal pieces.

Terry


When I have seen  SL and SN sets, it always seems that the S is enlarged, as if stamped separately.  I have usually ignored them in my memory, and only remember L and N, frankly, that is why I was surprised earlier in this thread.  But looking at some data I kept, I do had SL and SN too.  I don't think I have seen PL and PN,  but we have the same situation here, L and N again, with a P prefixed.

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Re: AE 40, 47 & 50 Base Code Observations (2017!)
« Reply #186 on: January 08, 2017, 10:43:22 PM »
Dear AE Collector:

I'd be interested to find out if that code for Chinese Red is a error or not; when you determine for sure, I will look for the posting from you.

RotoTech99

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Re: AE 40, 47 & 50 Base Code Observations (2017!)
« Reply #187 on: January 08, 2017, 10:44:38 PM »
L 4125 ASLD    TN6         D-780503-A41    Jade with chrome trim, extensicord

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Re: AE 40, 47 & 50 Base Code Observations (2017!)
« Reply #188 on: January 08, 2017, 10:50:29 PM »
Dear AE Collector:

Could the code with N in it from reply #183 be the Royal Blue code? the code reads Z1846267 NR7; he calls it Blue with Chrome trim, and a frequency ringer; Could this be the Royal Blue we seek?

RotoTech99
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Re: AE 40, 47 & 50 Base Code Observations (2017!)
« Reply #189 on: January 08, 2017, 10:58:32 PM »
The S and P codes never appear on their own but when they do appear it is always in front of the more common L and N codes. Interestingly, I only have L, PL and SL codes for 50's. No N, PN or SN 50 codes. Hmmm....

Z's seem to be a different animal again. No Z 40's but I have a couple of 47 sets with a Z. I have one Z 50 as well AND a SZL 50 to further complicate things. The Z50 and the two 47's with Z's....all AE Canada sets. The rest of the coding on Z sets seems to not follow the regular pattern very well.

Terry


When I have seen  SL and SN sets, it always seems that the S is enlarged, as if stamped separately.  I have usually ignored them in my memory, and only remember L and N, frankly, that is why I was surprised earlier in this thread.  But looking at some data I kept, I do had SL and SN too.  I don't think I have seen PL and PN,  but we have the same situation here, L and N again, with a P prefixed.

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Re: AE 40, 47 & 50 Base Code Observations (2017!)
« Reply #190 on: January 08, 2017, 11:07:13 PM »
My guess is that it isn't. The third code field is almost always two letters and a number like NR7. Sometimes it seems like they put it backwards like 4BG. Since the second field just has 67 for the ringer frequency and is missing its dial indicator digit and since some colored sets don't have the letter code for the color, I am inclined to think the color code is just missing and the N is part of the third field of codes.
 
Terry

Dear AE Collector:

Could the code with N in it from reply #183 be the Royal Blue code? the code reads Z1846267 NR7; he calls it Blue with Chrome trim, and a frequency ringer; Could this be the Royal Blue we seek?

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Re: AE 40, 47 & 50 Base Code Observations (2017!)
« Reply #191 on: January 08, 2017, 11:13:55 PM »
Could the "R" in that code be for Royal Blue? I know its throwing a guess, but I figure it couldn't hurt to ask.

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Re: AE 40, 47 & 50 Base Code Observations (2017!)
« Reply #192 on: January 09, 2017, 12:29:50 AM »
Anything is possible but there is no indication that they tried to line up the coding with the letter that the color begins with in any of the other examples so far.

Terry

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Re: AE 40, 47 & 50 Base Code Observations (2017!)
« Reply #193 on: January 09, 2017, 08:22:58 AM »
OK, I can concur with that, it's a thought, though.

I'll keep looking, and see what everyone else turns up on this, too.

There's still plenty of looking to do, so something will turn up, I'm sure of that.

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Re: AE 40, 47 & 50 Base Code Observations (2017!)
« Reply #194 on: January 09, 2017, 10:53:27 AM »
Here is an example of an early set that shows what I described earlier.

The S is well separated from the standard ordering number, which included the N.

This appears to be another set from 1939 or so, with a silver-ink patent stamp.

My suggestion is that the extra leading symbol is not part of the primary order number, but has some additional significance.

The S and P codes never appear on their own but when they do appear it is always in front of the more common L and N codes. Interestingly, I only have L, PL and SL codes for 50's. No N, PN or SN 50 codes. Hmmm....

Z's seem to be a different animal again. No Z 40's but I have a couple of 47 sets with a Z. I have one Z 50 as well AND a SZL 50 to further complicate things. The Z50 and the two 47's with Z's....all AE Canada sets. The rest of the coding on Z sets seems to not follow the regular pattern very well.

Terry
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