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Offline mentalstampede

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List 31 Enclosure?
« on: July 20, 2017, 01:06:52 AM »
I found a local seller who happened to have a like new payphone enclosure and pedestal for sale, and it was too nice to pass up. Very minor wear from storage, but it's obviously never been installed. I believe I have heard or seen this style referred to as an L31, but I don't really know anything about it. Was this a type used by Bell, or what? I was planning on hanging my AE 120 in this, but now I'm thinking this enclosure might be more appropriate with my SWB branded 1D2 instead. In any case, here's a photo. The new pedestal is on the left.
My name is Kenn, and I like telephones.

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Offline Jim S.

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Re: List 31 Enclosure?
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2017, 02:07:07 PM »
They made SW Bell lenses for that style of enclosure.
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Re: List 31 Enclosure?
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2017, 03:25:07 PM »
Hmm... Sounds like I know what I need to find now! Thanks Jim!

They made SW Bell lenses for that style of enclosure.
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Re: List 31 Enclosure?
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2017, 03:34:45 PM »
I found a local seller who happened to have a like new payphone enclosure and pedestal for sale, and it was too nice to pass up. Very minor wear from storage, but it's obviously never been installed. I believe I have heard or seen this style referred to as an L31, but I don't really know anything about it. Was this a type used by Bell, or what? I was planning on hanging my AE 120 in this, but now I'm thinking this enclosure might be more appropriate with my SWB branded 1D2 instead. In any case, here's a photo. The new pedestal is on the left.
L or "list"numbers were typically used by the Bell System to identify specific equipment items which all shared a common root or base KS or J number.  Few other organizations used this style of designation.

Pedestals are documented in BSPs 508-3xx-xxx amd 508-4xx-xxx. 

Here is a list of the BSPs matching this spec. available on the TCI site.  If you download and go through them you might find the item and be able to identify the root KS # and learn who made this item for the Bell System. 

41. 508-300-100 I1:
http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/document-repository/doc_details/10343-508-300-100-i1

42. 508-301-100 I1:
http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/document-repository/doc_details/10344-508-301-100-i1

43. 508-352-100-i5-Booth-Outdoor-KS-14611 Tl:
http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/document-repository/doc_details/3071-508-352-100-i5-booth-outdoor-ks-14611-tl

44. 508-401-100 I1:
http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/document-repository/doc_details/10345-508-401-100-i1

45. 508-402-100 I1:
http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/document-repository/doc_details/10346-508-402-100-i1

46. 508-430-100 I1:
http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/document-repository/doc_details/10347-508-430-100-i1

47. 508-451-100 i1 Nov72 - Walk-up Drive-up Public Telephones:
http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/document-repository/doc_details/10348-508-451-100-i1-nov72-walk-up-drive-up-public-telephones

48. 508-452-100 I1:
http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/document-repository/doc_details/10349-508-452-100-i1

49. 508-460-100 I3:
http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/document-repository/doc_details/9274-508-460-100-i3

50. 508-460-100-se:
http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/document-repository/doc_details/343-508-460-100-se
 
I may have a compatible Pacific Bell version, which is not for sale but could be scanned and reproduced.

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Re: List 31 Enclosure?
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2017, 09:54:43 PM »
Unit on the left I believe was made by enclosures inc, it is known as a bath tub. This style of encloursue was used by Bell companies but not that brand. The bell enclosures were a very heavy gauge of aluminum. Many were made by Clark Specialies or Adco. The enclosure on the right were only used by COCOT companies and were made by a company in Texas called Mernydine I think, may not be the correct spelling.

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Re: List 31 Enclosure?
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2017, 11:39:35 AM »
Thanks for the input! I've put my SWB 1D2 in the "Bathtub" enclosure, and my AE120B in the COCOT enclosure. That will do until I can find a nice GTE branded enclosure for the 120.
My name is Kenn, and I like telephones.

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Re: List 31 Enclosure?
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2017, 01:50:53 AM »
My L31 enclosures (sardine cans) all had the vandal resistant aluminum lens instead of the plastic one you have. As I was told the other was L31A and I have one of those although beat up, hit by car. I have been looking for a pattern so I can make a silk screen and put the old Bell System bell logo with the word Phone like I remember. Any originals would be impossible to find in my opinion.

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Re: List 31 Enclosure?
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2017, 11:29:09 AM »

. Any originals would be impossible to find in my opinion.
Replacement lenses aren't that hard to find. I have come across new and used lens for these types of booths at telephone shows. A lot of NOS replacement lenses ended up  in the hands of collectors after the break-up. You can check with the collector clubss.
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Re: List 31 Enclosure?
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2017, 09:04:18 PM »
Sure wish I could find an L31 on a pedestal .
I’m in North East PA and this area is flooded with NYC transplants. Only 8 miles from the NJ border.
You’d figure they would be on every rummage sale site.

But alas, my phones sit on the bench....