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Offline dsk

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Re: Problems with Gray Western 150G
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2017, 11:46:01 AM »
The relay is stamped 60V, usually thees are for 110V?
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Re: Problems with Gray Western 150G
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2017, 12:15:33 PM »
Haf - If Poplar1 is correct about the wiring harness and H dial, that would explain why you found a jumper wire on the dial.  Stan can probably confirm, but perhaps that jumper should be reinstalled.   It would be great to have the original dial back in the phone.....
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Re: Problems with Gray Western 150G
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2017, 12:36:42 PM »
The original dial is back in the phone again, tested, ist just to slow, if you speed up a little with your finger ist will dial out without problems. What I don't understand, as long as wired only to my PBX everything is working, if called, bell from subset ring loud and clear. I have a dial tone when lifting receiver, can answer and make calls and going on hook again properly.
This wouldn't be the case if something i wired wrong or missing at the dial wiring, Right?

Have to go to town shop some things for weekend, will be back soon.

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Re: Problems with Gray Western 150G
« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2017, 12:42:06 PM »
Nice, and I remember that you are anlegg to tune a final.
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Re: Problems with Gray Western 150G
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2017, 03:12:29 PM »
The original dial is back in the phone again, tested, ist just to slow, if you speed up a little with your finger ist will dial out without problems.


You can adjust the dial speed (assuming it is not just clogged up with dirt and old oil):
See paragraph 3.15. Instead of a 260 tool, you can block the governor from moving with two screwdrivers. Loosen the governor adjusting screw, then move the adjusting arm counter-clockwise (towards F in the drawing): [F=Fast S=Slow]

http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/browse/wiring-diagrams/western-electric/doc_details/2385-dials-501-162-100-tl
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Re: Problems with Gray Western 150G
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2017, 03:26:06 PM »
Poplar1
isn't that instruction for a 5H dial? I don't see a adjusting srew on mine. Or do I just have to turn the governor a little bit?

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Re: Problems with Gray Western 150G
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2017, 06:53:17 PM »
The adjustment method is the same for a 2-type, 4-type, and 5-type dial. The screw is inside the governor. The screw needs to be near the top of the governor before you try to loosen it. Once it is loosened, you can move the adjusting arm.
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Re: Problems with Gray Western 150G
« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2017, 07:21:21 PM »
Thank you very much, will do so tomorrow. 1:20 am, time to sleep now.

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Re: Problems with Gray Western 150G
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2017, 11:22:01 AM »
Today I started taking a closer look at the dial. First changed the dial center card, Stan was so kind making me the one I wanted (if anyone has a WAtkns 9 original card I'm interested!). My dial plate seems to be one of the early plastic 149H dated II 37 in good shape. Now going on to adjust and oil the dial.

Keep you up to date,

Haf

p.s. still don't know why some pictures shows sideways...