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Offline WEBellSystemChristian

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Re: Red WE Spacesaver
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2017, 03:58:31 PM »
Did they ever make that handset style in red? I have a space saver and the only thing it doesn't have is a red handset.

It looks like yours was originally Black, but an aftermarket refurbisher converted it to an emergency style phone in recent years.

I bet a Red G1 would look appropriate on that! :)

The short answer is "no".  They made the F style handset in a color called Pekin Red-- sometimes called "tomato red" later--but they hadn't dreamed this handset would have a great demand in any color than black, so the 1950's color palette was covered by painted black Bakelite F1 handsets. What I have seen on sets like this, many are marked F4.  Basically, an early "solid" F1 has the H1 receiver capsule replaced with the newer U1 unit. This is done with a set of red and white jumper wires installed to replace the spring contacts in the original handset. Also, these sets were seen with g type handsets after 1960, so you could argue the point of using a G3 in dark red on a space saver.
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Actually, my Spacesaver is -53, not -20. It's somewhere in between my Pekin Red Continental and my 1955 Red 500, but I assume it's actually -53, and my 500 is just discolored or faded slightly.
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Re: Red WE Spacesaver
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2017, 07:27:15 PM »

However, the date in the base is 3rd Quarter 1955. That would explain the Neutral Gray cord, if the phone was built Red at the factory.


Is there a part number and date on the handset cord?
Wondering if it is a cord made for F1 (H3x) or for a G3 (H4x)....
What color cords are on the "blood red" 302s from 1955 (those made in the 500 colors -- molded housings and painted handsets)?
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Re: Red WE Spacesaver
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2017, 07:31:03 PM »
Did they ever make that handset style in red? I have a space saver and the only thing it doesn't have is a red handset.


That looks like a North Electric handset.
I believe that the chrome cradle indicates it should have a Western Electric G-type handset.
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Re: Red WE Spacesaver
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2017, 06:20:44 PM »
Wow, I can't believe it's been this long since I got it! :o

I finished polishing awhile ago, but I added the correct dial card retainer and waxed it last night.

I can't get the handset open for some reason. I tried unscrewing each cap so hard that I could feel the handset binding under the pressure, so I stopped. I also can't take the base apart, because the handset cord conductors are extremely dry-rotted. It displays very nicely on the outside, however.

I also made a tiny chip in the paint getting the retainer on! :'(
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Re: Red WE Spacesaver
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2017, 08:53:41 PM »
My eyes aren't used to seeing a spacesaver in red, so this set immediately grabs my eye....The red cleaned up so well, that is the pay off! What a spectacular set!...That cord & the chrome cradle is the kicker! Nice job!

I wouldn't be concerned about not getting it opened.   It's gonna look good in your collection.

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Re: Red WE Spacesaver
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2017, 10:05:16 PM »
Beautiful phone, Christian.  Nicely done.

I've had good luck heating the handset caps with a hair dryer.  Often they come right off after doing that.

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Re: Red WE Spacesaver
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2017, 03:51:34 AM »
I saw one of those on Ebay once... would have loved to have gotten it, but no money and I would have to hide it.... A red 211... awesome find....
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Re: Red WE Spacesaver
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2017, 08:58:16 PM »
and I would have to hide it..
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Re: Red WE Spacesaver
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2017, 09:02:41 PM »
Thanks guys! I really am pretty proud of it! :)

If I had a reason to access the handset, I would try to get those caps off. There's no real reason to, so I'll leave them on for now.
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Re: Red WE Spacesaver
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2017, 03:42:18 PM »
I have a similar one with a red thermoplastic handset and painted metal. Pretty good match with the paint to the thermoplastic. Still looking for a cloth handset cord to match...Doug
« Last Edit: December 22, 2017, 03:45:30 PM by Doug Rose »
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Offline WEBellSystemChristian

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Re: Red WE Spacesaver
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2017, 04:10:00 PM »
Nice phone, Doug!

The paint looks great! Is it original?
Christian Petterson

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Re: Red WE Spacesaver
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2017, 07:20:33 PM »
Christian....as far as I can tell, looks like the real deal. The new red cords are too bright and the older ones are too dull.of a match for it.  I found this at Brimfield about 10 years ago in a box or dials and handsets. This was wrapped in bubble and I barely looked at it checking out the dials and handset.  When I got it home, I was more than happy. I am amazed at how good the thermoplastic and paint on the metal match.

On another note, Jan found a factory green WE 202, with matching cords with fantastic original paint at a flea about 5 years ago ....Doug
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