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Pair of Western Electric D1/202 Sets
« on: January 28, 2018, 04:57:57 PM »
I found two WE D1/202 sets on Goodwill's auction site, both from the same store, and won both.  One has the E-1 handset, and the other an F-1 handset.  The set with the E-1 handset appears a little rougher, is missing the dial card retainer, and will need a set of cords.  The other set is in better shape and I  think the cloth cords can be salvaged.

Here is the information for both:

D1/202 with E-1 Handset

Base dated I-36
Dial: 4H, dated I-32
E-1 Handset
  Receiver: 557B, dated IV-37
  TX: F1 dated 4-48

D1/202 with F-1 Handset

Base dated IV-35
Dial: 5H dated 4-49
F1 Handset
  Receiver: HA1 dated 11-24-41
  TX: F1 dated 10-47



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Re: Pair of Western Electric D1/202 Sets
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2018, 06:11:19 PM »
Nice finds! I like the old dial card, paired with the chrome rings, a classy touch.

How much did it cost to get these into your hands?
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Re: Pair of Western Electric D1/202 Sets
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2018, 06:19:08 PM »
Agreed...love the dial card...nice 4H as well.....Doug
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Re: Pair of Western Electric D1/202 Sets
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2018, 06:48:39 PM »
Nice finds! I definitely love the sound of the 4h dial. Getting an E1 handset completely apart can be a royal pain. But a nice rubber strap wrench will solve that problem.

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Re: Pair of Western Electric D1/202 Sets
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2018, 06:51:31 PM »
Good for you! If you have the patience to deal with the outdated Goodwill website you deserve the fruits of your labor!

Enjoy!

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Re: Pair of Western Electric D1/202 Sets
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2018, 06:57:27 PM »
Goodwill auctions are getting as pricey as eBay, although I still find some good bargains.  But these went high.  The D1 with the E-1 handset went for $46.  The D1 with F-1 and the cool dial card went for $80.  I had only intended to bid on the E-1.set, but couldn't resist the dial card on the F-1 set, and the cords all looked good.

I have cleaned and polished the E-1 set, and cleaned and lubricated the 4H dial, which seems to be working smoothly now.  I'm waiting on a set or cords and new dial ring.

I can't test it yet as I need to make a subset.  I've got a couple old Princess 702B bases I thought get I might see if I could make a subset from one.

BTW, Goodwill has significantly revamped their auction site recently.
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Re: Pair of Western Electric D1/202 Sets
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2018, 07:21:07 PM »
Butch, I was able to get the E-1 spit cup off by wrapping some masking tape around the spit cup and using a rubber gripper cloth (see photo above)

I removed the 4H dial as it would barely rotate.  I cleaned the dial mechanism with contact cleaner, which freed it up quickly.  I lightly oiled the mechanism.
The fingerwheel was bent.  I straightened it between two pieces of hardwood by tapping with a hammer.  Here are some photos of the 4H dial:



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Re: Pair of Western Electric D1/202 Sets
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2018, 03:07:04 PM »
I finished up one of the D1/202 phones today, and it works well!  I don't have a subset for it yet, but I made a cheater subset to test it.  I posted some information on the cheater subset in the Technical Stuff forum.

I washed the base and handset with Simple Green.  For the base, which has about 80% to 90% of its original finish, I polished and buffed it with Carnauba Wax, which brought out a nice shine.  I buffed the handset with Novus 2, then applied a final layer of Carnauba Wax. 

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Re: Pair of Western Electric D1/202 Sets
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2018, 03:27:52 PM »
Good job, Ed. That looks really nice! Congrats on your purchase, another nice phone preserved!

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Re: Pair of Western Electric D1/202 Sets
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2018, 04:16:54 PM »
Ed....that is beautiful! Outstanding job. Did you use a 302 base for the subset? They do a really nice job....fantastic 202 and I love the dial card...Doug
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Re: Pair of Western Electric D1/202 Sets
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2018, 04:41:43 PM »
I made a cheater subset just for testing while I'm waiting for a WE 684 subset I found on eBay to arrive.  There's a description of the cheater subset and couple photos in the Techical Stuff forum:

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=19732.0
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Re: Pair of Western Electric D1/202 Sets
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2018, 10:43:42 PM »
That really is a beauty, Ed. I love the dial card. Now you need to rustle up a decent 684 subset for the complete effect. I will keep my eyes peeled for you.

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Re: Pair of Western Electric D1/202 Sets
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2018, 11:18:31 PM »
Butch, thanks, but I have one on the way.  Found it on eBay.  Hopefully it works as seller says it is "untested."
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Re: Pair of Western Electric D1/202 Sets
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2018, 06:15:05 AM »
It's unlikely that it's broken, unless it was messed with. WE was built for forever. I have 2, one was really ugly, so I took a chance on it. Works perfect.  :)

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Re: Pair of Western Electric D1/202 Sets
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2018, 08:50:04 PM »
My 684BA subset arrived yesterday, and I hooked up the D1/202 phone with E-1 handset to it.  I first connected it to a BK 1045 tester.  The subset would ring, but I got no dial tone, although the dial registered correctly on the tester.  I hooked the phone to my house line, and still no dial tone.

My mounting cord for the D1/202 with the E-1 handset is a three wire cord, red/green/yellow.  Since the phone worked properly on my "cheater subset" as described above, I figured the problem was with the subset.

The first thing I did was add a jumper from BK on the 202 dial to BK on the 684 subset.  Still, NO DIAL TONE.

The second step was to check the 2uF capacitor.  It tested 0 capacitance.  So I temporarily tacked in a 2uF capacitor, and voila!  The phone works!  I got a dial tone, the phone rings, and it dials out.  I've ordered some 2uF caps rated at 250 volts, so when they arrive, I will permanently repair the 684 subset.

So, it appears that the D1/202 phone won't work with the 684 subset with a three wire mounting cord?  A four wire cord is required, with red/green/yellow, and the black lead from dial BK to subset BK?

« Last Edit: February 02, 2018, 08:53:58 PM by Ed Morris »
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