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Re: Crate of 21B top locks
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2018, 08:20:17 AM »
These are the only locks that will fit in a A/E vault with the right modification to the key. Jim

Yes, and I can do that; no problem. You also have to shave about 1/16" off of the mounting bars too, but that's it.
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Re: Crate of 21B top locks
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2018, 11:41:35 AM »
More info please!

I know that AE 3 slot payphones had standard 29S locks in the upper and I have not encountered any 8nstances of local Telcos having their own specific version of the lock and key. But of course the vaults were all keyed uniquely. What is the type of lick original to AE 3 Slot phones?

21B locks will fit as replacements for AE vaults? Thus someone could equip the vault doors on all their AE 3 Slot phones with these locks and use a 21B key for the vault? What is the modification and why?

This can solve missing keys for the original unique vault locks and help prevent future loss of keys from locking you out of your AE phones.

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Re: Crate of 21B top locks
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2018, 06:32:51 AM »
More info please!

I know that AE 3 slot payphones had standard 29S locks in the upper and I have not encountered any 8nstances of local Telcos having their own specific version of the lock and key. But of course the vaults were all keyed uniquely. What is the type of lick original to AE 3 Slot phones?

21B locks will fit as replacements for AE vaults? Thus someone could equip the vault doors on all their AE 3 Slot phones with these locks and use a 21B key for the vault? What is the modification and why?

This can solve missing keys for the original unique vault locks and help prevent future loss of keys from locking you out of your AE phones.

Terry
The AE coin vault lock is the 10L, which are uniquely keyed, and not that common (or cheap). Paul Vaverchak taught me a way to utilize the MUCH more common NE 21B key for the AE vault door lock with only a few modifications. Remember, the 21B is the all-keyed-the-same top lock for Northern Electric 3-slot phones.

I don't have photos right now, but basically it simply involves some simple work with your dremel tool to place an additional groove in the 21B key so that it will turn in the AE vault door. And the other grinding you will have to do is to take about 1/8" off of the ends of those little 10L lock bars that come with a 10L lock so that the 21B lock can be positioned perfectly in place of the 10L on the back of the vault door.

If you do this little mod, and also utilize a 21B for the top lock of your AE 3-slot, you only require 1 single key to open your entire phone. Certainly it's not "proper", but it works just fine, and your phone looks and works "proper"!

AND, if any of you have any original AE 10L locks, I am looking for them please!
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