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Offline FABphones

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#4 dial on a 302
« on: January 14, 2019, 08:02:22 AM »
I did a CRPF search (I will wear that search engine out, sooo useful), and read that a #4 dial on a 302 is unusual as they mostly have a #5 dial. So I checked one of mine (yes, even on this side of the water I have four 302s in my collection!) a 1939 metal 302, and it has a #4 ('Z, 0') dial.

Sooo... I have found another phone (WE B1) that has a #5 dial ('operator, 0') and I would like to swap them over, but only if both phones would still be correct, as I think the B1 should correctly have a #4 dial?

Forgive me if I'm getting this all wrong, I know you guys will kindly put me straight.  :)
« Last Edit: January 14, 2019, 08:08:49 AM by FABphones »
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Re: #4 dial on a 302
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2019, 08:16:38 AM »
Fab  ....    The Western B1 desk set was first produced and equipped with a type 2H dial.     Type 4 dials, the 2/4 conversion dials were intended for the "D" series sets wit the recessed dial cavity in the base.   

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Re: #4 dial on a 302
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2019, 09:16:51 AM »
I have a II 37 all original 302 and it has a #5 dial with celluloid dial plate. I know the first year 302's came with either #4 or #5. Somewhere on here there is a list of all the configurations. My #5 has a non metallic pulse pawl. I forget the exact terminology for the material it's made from.
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Re: #4 dial on a 302
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2019, 12:36:44 PM »
Wow. I have much to learn Butch.

Jeff, thanks for taking time to p.m. I will read up and learn, thanks for sharing.

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Re: #4 dial on a 302
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2019, 01:32:22 PM »
Your most welcome.   

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Re: #4 dial on a 302
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2019, 03:26:03 PM »
Wow. I have much to learn Butch.

That's the fun of it. Never too old to learn something new.
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Re: #4 dial on a 302
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2019, 11:33:17 PM »
It appears (to me at least) that some #4 dials, the ones that were #2 dial conversions, were used after WWII as replacements when there was high demand for new phones and as dial candlesticks and desk stands with #2 dials were retired from service.  Real "pure" 4H dials were used on early 302s, and 5Hs soon followed. D-1s were also issued 5H dials when they were reconditioned.  What are the dates on your dials? 
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Re: #4 dial on a 302
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2019, 10:21:44 PM »
FABphones, does your 4H dial have any dates on the back? Sometimes there will be a date showing when it was remanufactured or converted from a 2A to 4H.
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