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Offline rfkimba

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Two versions of 1908 Rochester Telephone Hubcap
« on: February 24, 2019, 06:30:28 AM »
Hi Collectors,
I looked with great interest at a current Ebay listing attached below for a 1908 Rochester 8" hubcap(Style A) in excellent condition. What I found shocking was  how different it looked from my authentic 1908 Rochester Hubcap(style B) analyzed by this forum in  6/2017 when I was still oozing with inexperience. It was judged by the Forum  to be worth between $250 and $400. I ultimately purchased my "rarer" version (B) for $325 +Sh. If you compare my 1908 hubcap(B) photo with the  1921  version mounted below for comparison to the Ebay listing(A) you will see a   different font  size and style   inside the bell which is also different in shape than my  Style B Rochester. Moreover the Ebay 1908 hubcap(A) has the single heavy  outer blue edge ring common to the  1908 hubcaps AND a thinner inner blue ring normally seen on the 1921 hubcaps . The backs on mine and the Ebay version both are satisfyingly  sloppy.  I was sure I spotted an imposter on Ebay despite the heavy porcelain ledging when I did my homework looking elsewhere and found   TWO other exact versions of the Ebay style(A) listed in the Telephone Archive website www.telephonearchive.com under Sign Gallery >Bell Signs>Hubcap and also in the same site under Sign Gallery> By Collector>Mark Redmond. I can only comment now I have the less common variety.
Any thoughts about the substantial variation in style?
Regards,
Bob  Farber ATCA, TCI


Offline Sargeguy

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Re: Two versions of 1908 Rochester Telephone Hubcap
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2019, 12:02:14 AM »
It could have been two different manufacturers.  I agree they both look legit. 
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Re: Two versions of 1908 Rochester Telephone Hubcap
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2019, 11:50:08 PM »
Remember... Rochester used the 08 logo after 1921. Both these so called
variations are consistent with other signs of that era.

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Re: Two versions of 1908 Rochester Telephone Hubcap
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2019, 02:36:00 PM »
This Rochester Telephone Corp. hubcap ending up selling for $510.00 + shipping - I did bid on it, but was left in the dust!
So did this sell for a fair price, was it overpriced or ?

Any opinions?

eBay Link: https://tinyurl.com/y5npomkq

Bruce
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Re: Two versions of 1908 Rochester Telephone Hubcap
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2019, 12:56:53 PM »
Let's see how this one does...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/323726223434
« Last Edit: March 08, 2019, 01:10:20 PM by Sargeguy »
Greg Sargeant
Providence, RI
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Re: Two versions of 1908 Rochester Telephone Hubcap
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2019, 03:42:23 PM »
For this sign to sell for $510 is way out of line. This sign was made after 1921 and is NOT rare. A little harder to find, at best, only because its a fairly small company. If someone needs this sign to fill out their collection then $350 is tops IMHO.

Of course collectors can bid what ever is in their comfort zone but a little caution should be applied.

Cheers..... Ell


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Re: Two versions of 1908 Rochester Telephone Hubcap
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2019, 09:13:11 PM »
Let's see how this one does...


As often happens when an item sells for much more than expected someone puts thiers on eBay to get the big bucks. I have one and I thought about listing it to see if I could get 500+
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Re: Two versions of 1908 Rochester Telephone Hubcap
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2019, 11:20:50 PM »
Tom...... Now if this was a Woodbury Telephone sign it would be a different story. LOL ;D

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Re: Two versions of 1908 Rochester Telephone Hubcap
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2019, 11:23:31 PM »
I was researching past eBay sales recently and noticed that there have been a few common signs that have gone for inflated prices recently, mostly Bell 1921 type.  There was a nice, but not mint, NET&T sign that sold for $500.  There must be a couple of deep pocketed collectors competing with one another.
Greg Sargeant
Providence, RI
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Re: Two versions of 1908 Rochester Telephone Hubcap
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2019, 03:32:32 PM »
For a small company Rochester certainly used a lot of signage. Must have had them on half the structures in the city. They even used an 11X11, flat aluminum sign with the 08 logo. When I first heard of them I was not sure they were legit until I owed a couple.

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Re: Two versions of 1908 Rochester Telephone Hubcap
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2019, 07:33:54 PM »
Tom...... Now if this was a Woodbury Telephone sign it would be a different story. LOL ;D

I was at Woodbury Telephone a long time ago. About  1974. I don't recall any signs but back then I wasn't interested in that stuff. I heard Woodbury Telephone was absorbed into Southern New England Telephone sometime after the AT&T breakup.
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Re: Two versions of 1908 Rochester Telephone Hubcap
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2019, 12:08:16 AM »
I learned that the flat aluminum Rochester signs were used as retirement gifts for long time employees.  Iím not sure if they were used exclusively for that purpose.
Greg Sargeant
Providence, RI
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Re: Two versions of 1908 Rochester Telephone Hubcap
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2019, 12:24:10 AM »
I learned that the flat aluminum Rochester signs were used as retirement gifts for long time employees.  Iím not sure if they were used exclusively for that purpose.

Greg.... You might be right on that. One of the ones I had was found glued to a mirror in the bathroom of a bar in Greece, New York but that doesn't prove anything.
What you learned sounds plausible to me.