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Offline KaiserFrazer67

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The OTHER Red AE80 I Bought: Thoughts from AE Folks Wanted
« on: March 08, 2019, 07:51:37 PM »
Hi all,

I posted an earlier thread showing the code-correct Garnet Red AE80 I had bought on eBay [EDIT:  Link here: http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=22038.0 ].  On that thread, I talked about and showed a few pics of the other red AE80 I also bought on eBay--one which was not code-correct.  I am posting more detailed pictures of it here, to invite commentary on it.

First four pics are as follows:

1)  Screencap of the original "Buy It Now" listing.  The link, while it lasts, is here (click on "See original listing"):  https://www.ebay.com/itm/292958699800

2)  The phone in question on my kitchen counter.  283B plug is mine.  Everything else you see, except for the handset plastic and caps alone (which I switched with the other "keeper" red AE80 as I'd mentioned in that post), came with this as I received it.  The long handset cord is likely from a wall phone, as I have a NOS duplicate along with a complete set of NOS Garnet Red AE90 plastic if I ever run across a code-correct Garnet Red AE90 which needs good plastic.  The fingerwheel has some crazing on it, and I will be replacing that with a new one which is on order.

3)  Back side of the phone.

4)  Detail photo of the writing on the phone body's handle, which looks like it's seen better days.  Ironic because on the eBay photos, it looked like the plastic on this one was better than the one with the code-correct chassis (which was the reason I bought it)--until I actually received it...  :P  Turned out the opposite was true.
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Re: The OTHER Red AE80 I Bought: Thoughts from AE Folks Wanted
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2019, 08:14:19 PM »
In this post I'm showing the bottom of the phone, with the codes, as well as the codes on some of the interior components.

1)  Base with product and date codes. 
Product code:  NC802000  CXX
Date code: 7  70  13

2)  Transmitter and receiver codes; "EH" and "CI", respectively.

3)  Circuit board code.  Appears to be "6  CM".  This was very difficult to auto-focus on... plus I had to temporarily remove a wire obscuring the code.  :P

4)  Dial code:  "CM31".

5)  Ringer condenser code.  Appears to be a smudged "EM75".

Now, my personal opinion is that this was indeed originally a black phone, and somebody along the way (possibly the seller?) put some nicer red plastic and cordage on it in order to flip it.  However, I am entertaining the following theory:  Is it possible this could still be an "original" phone, as in "issued as is by a telco"?  I do know that the "XX" code meant that the ringer would be installed as needed at the telco; is it possible that AE made generic chassis for telcos to finish "speccing out" according to customers' needs/orders?  If this is the case, the black "00" color code on the base would not refer to "black" so much as "blank", in my opinion.

I would be very interested if anyone could present more opinions on this phone based on the component codes.   I do not intend to keep this particular phone; I want to try to clean/polish it up a bit better and put a new fingerwheel on it, as I'd mentioned before.  Not much I can do about the damaged lettering, which sucks... :P  Not sure how I'll pass it along, but I would like to try to recoup some of the money I spent on it.

The seller was "martellredbarn" from Hickman, Nebraska.  Anyone have any experience with this seller?

To AE_Collector and any other AE specialists out there...  all thoughts and comments are welcome.

Thanks much,

-Tom M. from Oakfield, Wis.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2019, 08:38:30 PM by KaiserFrazer67 »
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Re: The OTHER Red AE80 I Bought: Thoughts from AE Folks Wanted
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2019, 10:54:25 PM »
I would not be that concerned about it .Telephones were refurbished by the telephone co all the time. I still consider red to be  one of the harder colors to find. I am in ex GTE territory and my father worked for GTE and  red sets were very hard to find here (Durham NC).I think many of the red type 80 sets on ebay came from Canada

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Re: The OTHER Red AE80 I Bought: Thoughts from AE Folks Wanted
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2019, 04:20:34 AM »
Thanks, rdelius.  Maybe I'd just gotten lucky with finding two nice red ones right in a row on eBay.  There was a third, older one with the compensator pot on the bottom, which I did not bid on, which was with the original box and paperwork.  It actually went for a reasonable amount of money, but I felt it was (a) too rough to deal with, and (b) it looked as if it may have had a frequency ringer since it had no adjustment for the ringer volume.  I have some screencaps from that auction here:
« Last Edit: March 09, 2019, 05:30:25 PM by KaiserFrazer67 »
-Tom from Oakfield, Wisconsin --  My CO CLLI & switch: OKFDWIXADS0--GTD-5 EAX

"Problems are merely opportunities in workclothes." -Henry J. Kaiser