Author Topic: Two-Tone Colored WECo 500 Telephones  (Read 43212 times)

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Re: Two-Tone Colored WECo 500 Telephones
« Reply #165 on: July 30, 2015, 09:05:14 PM »
Is it possible that in 1953, the only "color" 500s were these two-tone ivory (-50A), green (-51A), gray (-52A) and red (-53A)?


Seems like a distinct possibility.
Swap in a new housing on top of those black sets and add that stamp (53A).
Prompto, there is a "color" phone, like a 10-minute oil change.

I still don't believe they actually installed any in 1953.  This is stamped Dec, so not likely that it got installed that month.
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Re: Two-Tone Colored WECo 500 Telephones
« Reply #166 on: July 31, 2015, 05:52:13 PM »
At the earliest, it probably got installed in January of 1954.

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Re: Two-Tone Colored WECo 500 Telephones
« Reply #167 on: July 31, 2015, 08:39:35 PM »
After they were able to produce the full range of colored sets, they quit making two-tone sets. The 2-tones  were still offered but the installer was to order the proper color housing and swap it onto a black set and send the black housing back to the  storeroom (per a BSP).

So if all the dates on your 2-tone match (except for housing) there is a good chance it is official. I  suspect that the colored housing may have an earlier date stamp from the current black set. Current (date) colored housings probably ran off the line as complete colored phones, whereas a colored housing that was ordered probably came out of warehouse stock.


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Re: Two-Tone Colored WECo 500 Telephones
« Reply #168 on: January 01, 2018, 01:25:30 AM »
I thought a few of you would enjoy some additional pics on this topic.  These have been "in situe" the last few years here, so I spent the last week putting some tlc into them.  These are all full color sets that, at the very least, I swapped a black dial for colored one.  My reasoning was simple-- I had the parts on hand to do it and these will look great in the display case next to the complete full color sets I have in there. All the removed parts will be cleaned, adjusted and stored for eventual replacement on their respective chassis, should I decide to let them go.
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Re: Two-Tone Colored WECo 500 Telephones
« Reply #169 on: January 01, 2018, 10:32:02 AM »
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I have some parts on the bench that I have been considering to do the same thing. After all they can be put back to the original configuration if I want to at a future date...Those look nice

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Re: Two-Tone Colored WECo 500 Telephones
« Reply #170 on: January 01, 2018, 11:18:42 AM »
Nice re-creations, Jester. The one on the left is a yellow one, isn't it? I can't quite tell, but yellow would have dark gray cords and a black dial in 1954 like you have, so I wanted everyone to know what color it is. The only real two-tone in your grouping is the green one. The other two, yellow and dark blue, are still considered full color sets since they have color handsets, and that's amazing considering the yellow one had three colors going on. Be sure to tell your holiday guests all that and watch them glaze over.  ::)  I'm sure you know already, sometimes the details we love are not interesting to non-collectors.

My aunt was talking about my uncle Don this past Christmas and the suit of clothes including an overcoat he got when he first started working for Southern Bell in late 1954. Imagine--he was there for the first color phones and then retired right at divestiture. I wish I had talked to him more about his work. He died in 1994. His overcoat exactly fits his tall grandson, who took it home with him as a memory of "papa Don."
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Re: Two-Tone Colored WECo 500 Telephones
« Reply #171 on: January 01, 2018, 12:20:09 PM »
For those interested. Here is some links to two-tone info posted to  the forum in the past.
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Here is an old thread with some BSP scans of colored and 2-tone telephone info.


http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=1886.msg25064#msg25064

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Here is another thread that includes early and 2-tone sets.
Gray cords Straight vs coiled

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=1863.90



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Re: Two-Tone Colored WECo 500 Telephones
« Reply #172 on: January 01, 2018, 12:38:04 PM »
Let me rephrase, Jonathan.  I'm sure, because of the dates on these three phones, that all of them were assembled with color matching dials.  I included the yellow and blue sets in that post because I didn't remember where to find the thread on black dial color sets.  Also, I thought they look great together.  On the blue phone, it actually came to me with a white 9CA dial.  As fortune would have it, the rest of it had dates of 12/55 and 1/56, and one of the spare #7 dials I bought in a lot is a marked 7C 57 with dial plate, dated 11/55.
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Re: Two-Tone Colored WECo 500 Telephones
« Reply #173 on: January 01, 2018, 01:44:41 PM »
Great phones, Jester!

My jaw nearly dropped to the floor when I saw the Yellow black dial set, but then noticed that you said you built it. I have the only one that I know of, but it came to me from another forum member without the dial or cords--the only parts that make it special. The plastics are dated 1953 (or 1954, I'll have to check), so it was undoubtedly a black dial set originally.

I don't recall ever seeing a black dial-specific topic, so this one will do for pictures of those.
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Re: Two-Tone Colored WECo 500 Telephones
« Reply #174 on: January 01, 2018, 03:32:54 PM »
First time I have seen/read this topic, and Im glad I did. I always knew about the early two-tone sets and to be honest didnt pay them much mind. Seeing better pictures of them and after reading up on the subject, they are rather nice sets. Granter they are out of my budget for collecting  ::), may need to make a faux set to round out my ranks.
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