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Offline FABphones

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AE, real or repro?
« on: August 23, 2019, 05:29:41 PM »
Seller says this is AE and parts of it have been changed out incorrectly.

I can see the end cap on the receiver is wrong (British), cables wrong. The base has been (re)covered in a cord fabric.    Having never actually seen one of these I'm not sure about this.

Opinions please. Real or repro?

These are the best photos I could get today.
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Re: AE, real or repro?
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2019, 06:03:15 PM »
Not an AE .Look like it is most likely a WE repro with an AE dial

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Re: AE, real or repro?
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2019, 07:10:06 PM »
Seller says this is AE and parts of it have been changed out incorrectly.

I can see the end cap on the receiver is wrong (British), cables wrong. The base has been (re)covered in a cord fabric.    Having never actually seen one of these I'm not sure about this.

Opinions please. Real or repro?

These are the best photos I could get today.

It's a "Franken-Phone"; thrown together with a mix of (mostly) repro parts and MAYBE an original/real stem and/or dial base, but I doubt it.
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Re: Real or repro?
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2019, 09:13:38 AM »
Righty-ho, here is 'Frank' in pieces.

All opinions welcome on whether any of this is real or not, in particular the base, baseplate, and stem.

Thanks!!!!!

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The baseplate and stem...
(Additional photo of writing on reply 6, below)
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Re: Real or repro?
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2019, 09:16:55 AM »
The transmitter on this is marked STC, but the rest of it (heavy Brass) is unmarked.....  Repro?
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Re: Real or repro?
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2019, 09:23:41 AM »
The endcap is genuine, British, the rest... Probably Repro.... ?
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Re: Real or repro?
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2019, 09:27:15 AM »
The last piece, plus additional photo of writing on base.
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Re: AE, real or repro?
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2019, 10:11:33 AM »
The parts appear to be reproduction . The faceplate has no holes to mount the transmitter bridge.The patent dates on the base are uneven, WE would have done a better job. Why did they paint the inside of the base?. The transmitter cup looks strange. The switch pile-up is rather crude looking compared to a real one and the rivit  on the hook stands out. The Receiver might be a real one with the hard rubber removed but the cap looks wrong with multiple holes.Parts copy WE not AE

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Re: Real or repro?
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2019, 12:00:19 PM »
Thanks for the fast reply.
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I've taken what I needed from it.   :)

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Offline tubaman

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Re: AE, real or repro?
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2019, 12:22:44 PM »
Agree that it's pretty much all repro.
Even the receiver cap is from a GPO 332 and has had its sides turned down to make it look ok on the Bell shell (which might be a real one less it's Ebonite covering).
I had a similar one some years ago and once all stripped to brass and polished was actually quite attractive.
If you want a pretty candlestick to use I think these are not so bad as you won't worry about it getting damaged if knocked over etc.
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Re: AE, real or repro?
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2019, 12:58:06 PM »
Check out this website on how to spot a fake candlestick phone.

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http://www.oldphoneman.com/Fakes.htm

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