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Offline JimNY

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Western Electric Decals
« on: September 19, 2019, 07:29:55 AM »
Hi All,
Time for my second post here, so please excuse my 'newb-ieness'.  I'm restoring a WE 317 I found at a garage sale. It was in rough shape but appears to be all original.  The original decal was nearly gone and unreadable so I am replacing it.  The box is also getting a new shellac finish. My question is, should the decal go under the finish, or be placed on top?   I hope that makes sense!

Thanks

Offline FABphones

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Re: Western Electric Decals
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2019, 08:01:35 AM »
I'd like to see this, could you add photos.  :)
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Offline RB

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Re: Western Electric Decals
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2019, 08:19:59 AM »
Don't know nuthin bout decals, but would spect, decal on top,= corners peelin up.
decal on bottom, still see it ok, no peeling, and, as long as the finish does not eat the decal, better idea???

Offline tubaman

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Re: Western Electric Decals
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2019, 08:59:38 AM »
I'm pretty sure that the decals go on top.
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Offline Key2871

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Re: Western Electric Decals
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2019, 11:23:14 AM »
Decal on top. For sure.
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Offline HarrySmith

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Re: Western Electric Decals
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2019, 11:42:06 AM »
Agreed. Original would have been on top of finish. If you are using a similar finish, varnish or the like, that is your best bet. However if you are using polyurethane or similar putting a coat on top of the decal might be a good idea to protect it.
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Offline Jim Stettler

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Re: Western Electric Decals
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2019, 11:51:33 AM »
The finish goes over the decal.
Later I will be posting a source for water based decals and repro #6 batteries.
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Offline Ktownphoneco

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Re: Western Electric Decals
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2019, 02:18:16 PM »
In the wood working world, it's a practice to use clear shellac over top of a water slide decal, but it's a good idea to apply a couple of coats of clear shellac to a scrap piece of wood, let it dry thoroughly, then apply a spare water decal and let it dry for 24 hours to make sure any moisture under the decal has a chance to dry completely.     Then go ahead and apply one or two coats over the decal just to make sure it doesn't damage or destroy the decal.   
The same thing applies when using clear coat sprays over water decals.     Use a spare decal and test how it's going to react to the clear coat.   Some clear coats will destroy a decal in short order.

If there's a problem between the decal and whatever finish one plans to use, it's always best to find that out on a test piece rather than the actual object your applying the decal to.

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« Last Edit: September 19, 2019, 05:53:21 PM by Ktownphoneco »

Offline JimNY

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Re: Western Electric Decals
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2019, 05:35:34 PM »
Thanks for all the responses, so many that I now have a follow up question... I've found a few versions of decal that claim to be for the 317.  I believe I have an early version 1909ish.  Anyone know which decal would be appropriate for the box? I've seen a black on orange version that has the same plain font as mine, but if I look closely mine looks to be black on gold (its hard to tell as almost all the color is gone).  Did WE use a black/gold label with the plain font?

Here is a pic of the phone.. the decal is present but almost completely illegible.  Thanks

Offline Sargeguy

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Re: Western Electric Decals
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2019, 05:40:14 PM »
That looks like the block lettering logo.  Iím not sure if they make a decent repro of that one. You may want to leave as is. 
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Offline HarrySmith

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Re: Western Electric Decals
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2019, 05:50:03 PM »
They were Black on Gold, not Orange. I cannot tell you which repro would be correct for your phone. It looks like there is enough of the original decal left to make a good comparison.
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Offline Duffy

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Re: Western Electric Decals
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2019, 07:40:56 PM »
Oldphoneworks carry's decals if you are looking for one.

http://www.oldphoneworks.com/search.php?mode=search&page=1

Offline Sargeguy

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Re: Western Electric Decals
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2019, 10:22:43 AM »
Here is the logo you are looking for:

http://www.oldphoneworks.com/water-decal-western-electric-block-lettering.html

I remember I ordered some but never used them because I think they were too small or else didn't look genuine for some reason.
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