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Offline dsk

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Fake or not?
« on: July 28, 2020, 05:10:33 PM »

Offline countryman

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Re: Fake or not?
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2020, 05:27:24 PM »
I vote fake. Bronze colored metal and the combination of a wooden box with a relatively modern dial are suspicious. The transmitter assembly also looks coarsely built and "just not right". The phone might very well be "old" (=over 30 years...) but not antique.

I could be wrong though...

Offline RB

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Re: Fake or not?
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2020, 05:32:18 PM »
Looks like a real...repop.
Plastic cords, dial mounting flange.
3 tier front
Done well, but just looks home made???

Offline Jim Stettler

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Re: Fake or not?
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2020, 06:13:04 PM »
The bells on top help indicate it may be real vs a bell box makeover. In the US many homemade compact woods used bell boxes with front bells vs top bells like a typical compact wood. This is a US based observation.
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My vote on this phone is non-original.
It just doesn't look right to me. However I am not familiar with this model of phone. and that is a gut guess.
JMO,
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I t does look like it was refinished with the parts in place vs a proper tear-down.
It looks like there may be an issue on the holes in the top by the bell.
I agree with the statements made by RB and countryman
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Offline HarrySmith

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Re: Fake or not?
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2020, 06:19:46 PM »
I would agree on not original. The receiver & cord look like the ones that appear on cheap Taiwan candlesticks. I do not know the model either but also agree it just does not "look right". Pictures of the inside may reveal more.
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Offline Key2871

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Re: Fake or not?
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2020, 07:43:28 PM »
Yea after looking it over well the whole thing looks repop, not original.
As Harry pointed out the receiver cord is a cheap cord if it were any where close to original they would have found a decent cloth cord to put on it.
And the metal peices just look "new", not old at all.
Some one tried to add patina but it's too uniform, natural patina just doesn't look like that..
Fake. Is my vote..
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Offline Duffy

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Re: Fake or not?
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2020, 09:23:29 PM »
Looks like a fake to me.

Offline rdelius

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Re: Fake or not?
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2020, 09:38:38 PM »
These are made in India Has a ITI type 24 dial .Working parts out of mere modern telephone sets. They also make poor looking brass or nickel plated candlesticks. Sometimes marked GEC .

Offline Jack Ryan

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Re: Fake or not?
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2020, 01:15:21 AM »
It's not really a reproduction as it is not identical to anything. It is a phone made in the style of an antique phone - a decorator phone.

I guess that's what you mean.

Now the difficult question - what is the etymology of the word "repop".

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Offline tubaman

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Re: Fake or not?
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2020, 02:39:51 AM »
Undoubtedly a repro, or more correctly a decorator phone as Jack Ryan said.
Nicely figured piece of wood on the front - can't say much else good about it.
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Offline dsk

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Re: Fake or not?
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2020, 03:09:41 AM »
At least we may conclude that this are not a very old phone  ;)

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Re: Fake or not?
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Offline FABphones

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Re: Fake or not?
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2020, 03:39:44 AM »
Dial looks Indian to me, endcap looks same style as that from a 164 handset (ITI #18 below for comparison).

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Offline poplar1

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Re: Fake or not?
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2020, 05:11:21 PM »
The dial is slanted the wrong way. See: AE 21.
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