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Re: Very Strange Feeling
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2010, 10:58:29 PM »
In my case, fortunately, although painfully for my great deal, I didn't pay a lot.  So, I didn't pursue mine further.  The seller had actually wrapped it nicely in bubble wrap, it was totally the post office's fault.
Yes, in many cases the cost is not the major annoying factor.  It's that something old and nice can be ruined just due to laziness or incompetence.  Looks like you and I both have some lonely plastic-gluing nights in our respective futures.

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Re: Very Strange Feeling
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2010, 09:51:29 AM »
Thanks, Doug.  I've not seen another 4J.  I'm surprised with all of your years at this that you haven't come across one.

Jim, what a shame.  Unbelievable.
Dennis ...as the Legend goes the 4J was the first WE dial made for the Clear thick open face finger wheel, like the early 5Js had with the hard to find mounting flange and NO hole in the finger wheel for easy removal. So my guess is at one time your beauty had an open face finger wheel on it...Doug
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Re: Very Strange Feeling
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2010, 09:59:30 AM »
In my case, fortunately, although painfully for my great deal, I didn't pay a lot.  So, I didn't pursue mine further.  The seller had actually wrapped it nicely in bubble wrap, it was totally the post office's fault.
Yes, in many cases the cost is not the major annoying factor.  It's that something old and nice can be ruined just due to laziness or incompetence.  Looks like you and I both have some lonely  nights in our respective futures.
Dave...I agree...it is such a waste and it can never be brought back to its former glory. I think we all have had the sinking feeling picking up a delivered package and hearing a sound we shouldn't be hearing. What is that rattling.....SH*T!!!!.....Doug
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Re: Very Strange Feeling
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2010, 10:12:30 AM »
Thanks, Doug.  I've not seen another 4J.  I'm surprised with all of your years at this that you haven't come across one.

Jim, what a shame.  Unbelievable.
Dennis ...as the Legend goes the 4J was the first WE dial made for the Clear thick open face finger wheel, like the early 5Js had with the hard to find mounting flange and NO hole in the finger wheel for easy removal. So my guess is at one time your beauty had an open face finger wheel on it...Doug

I don't know, my 1942 ivory 302 has a 5J dial on it, and this finger wheel and number card retainer look identical to mine. Does it have the brassy-looking piece behind the card with a single round hole in it to the left of center?

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Re: Very Strange Feeling
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2010, 10:32:09 AM »
Dave, you should've gotten a refund!  I don't know what you paid. Well I weighed looking for a new housing shell (that would almost be impossible),

I have a lot of used housings for ITT call directors.

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Re: Very Strange Feeling
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2010, 11:31:53 AM »
Um... What's an ITT Call Director?

To my knowledge, ITT didn't make a telephone set that looked exactly like the Western Electric Call Director.  Stromberg-Carlson and Automatic Electric did, however...

ITT made a set called the Corinthian (named after their plant location of Corinth, MS).  It was similar to a WE Call Director but I doubt any of the parts would be interchangeable with it.  Pics of Corinthian sets from the ITT TIMM-2 included below.

I'd LOVE to own one of these Corinthian phones, BTW, if anybody has one they'd like to sell.  They NEVER come up on eBay.
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« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2010, 12:37:32 AM »

I'd LOVE to own one of these Corinthian phones, BTW, if anybody has one they'd like to sell.  They NEVER come up on eBay.

Well -- ALMOST never.

I got this one on ebay a few years ago.   ;D
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« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2010, 09:51:47 AM »
Wow!  And it's a 10-button Touch-Tone pad set, to boot!  Beautiful!
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« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2010, 12:05:48 PM »
Here's a pic I just happen to have laying around of a phone I'd love to own...
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Re: Very Strange Feeling
« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2010, 01:08:00 PM »
Um... What's an ITT Call Director?

To my knowledge, ITT didn't make a telephone set that looked exactly like the Western Electric Call Director.  Stromberg-Carlson and Automatic Electric did, however...

ITT made a set called the Corinthian (named after their plant location of Corinth, MS).  It was similar to a WE Call Director but I doubt any of the parts would be interchangeable with it.  Pics of Corinthian sets from the ITT TIMM-2 included below.

I'd LOVE to own one of these Corinthian phones, BTW, if anybody has one they'd like to sell.  They NEVER come up on eBay.

An ITT call director is basically an ITT version of a call director. The parts won't interchange, but shippers break all brands of phones, If anyone needs a housing for an ITT call director, I have a large box full.

On these the line buttons go across the top and your dial or TT pad is in the middle. The housings work w/ either TT or rotary and I may have some of the front plates.

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Re: Very Strange Feeling
« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2010, 01:40:17 PM »
Just to keep things straight, what Jim is describing is commonly called a "ten button phone".  In my experience installing phone systems, these were NOT called Call Directors.  A Call Director is a set that has button strips that are mounted vertically, specifically The Western Electric Call Director, and the AE and Stromberg sets that were designed like them.

I do believe that parts from ITT ten button phones ARE parts interchangeable with Western Electric ten button phones (just as ITT 500 set parts are interchangeable with WE 500 set parts).

These sets also came in 20 button versions.
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« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2010, 08:41:20 PM »
... and 30 buttons.
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Re: Very Strange Feeling
« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2010, 10:24:05 PM »
Here's a pic I just happen to have laying around of a phone I'd love to own...
This one is my only Card Dialer with a 10-button dial.

<-------  (And this little picture over here on the left is my only Card Dialer
              with a 16-button dial!!)
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Re: Very Strange Feeling
« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2010, 10:27:03 PM »
Re: 6-button card dialer: To Die For! :)

Re: 30 button phone: Cool!  Thanks, Paul, for including that.

Can someone check me on this?  I believe only ITT made 30 button phones, Western Electric only made 10s and 20s.  Can anyone confirm that?

BTW, ITT also had wall versions of these.  They consisted of the whole base turned 180 degrees, a different switch hook (cup style) and dial also reoriented, but key strip not reoriented.  Stromberg-Carlson also made these in desk and wall versions, and they also had 6 button versions as well (but not ITT or WE).
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Re: Very Strange Feeling
« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2010, 10:30:50 PM »
Can someone check me on this?  I believe only ITT made 30 button phones, Western Electric only made 10s and 20s.  Can anyone confirm that?
Yes, that's right.