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Offline Rigger1

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Repairing a 4H Dial
« on: January 30, 2011, 05:27:59 PM »
I am working on a 4H dial that was frozen solid with rust and corrosion. I have everything pretty well cleaned up and ready to reassemble, however the pawl spring is very badly rusted and broken into 3 pieces. Can any one give me an idea of where to find a suitable replacement?  This is never going to be a great dial, but it is my first attempt to repair one. I would like to get it back together, install it and see if I have it right. Thanks for any help you can give.  I attached a picture of the phone to give an idea how bad it was. The phone must have been wet for quite a while.
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Offline Dennis Markham

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Re: Repairing a 4H Dial
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2011, 11:53:54 PM »
Rigger, Welcome to the Forum.

My first stop would be to check with Steve Hilsz.  He has a web site:

www.navysalvage.com

His e-mail address is: jydsk@tds.net

He is the dial expert and often has spare parts.  He's a great guy and won't charge you an arm and a leg.  Tell him we sent you.

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Offline HarrySmith

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Re: Repairing a 4H Dial
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2011, 12:24:10 AM »
Welcome!
Steve is definetly a good resource for any dial parts or repair. Right now he is off on a salvage mission so it may not be a quick response.
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Offline Rigger1

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Re: Repairing a 4H Dial
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2011, 08:24:30 AM »
Thanks for the information. I will get an email off to him, and I will be sure to mention the forum.  Oh, BTW the picture of the dial was taken as I was taking it apart. It is looking a bit better now. This is a amazing product, to take all that abuse, then clean up and be ready to go back into service.

Offline LarryInMichigan

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Re: Repairing a 4H Dial
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2011, 11:16:25 AM »
Being that nearly all of the critical components were made of brass, those dials are nearly indestructible.

Larry

Offline Rigger1

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Re: Repairing a 4H Dial
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2011, 03:37:47 PM »
I stopped at Ace Hardware this afternoon with the dial in my pocket...I found a spring that was perfect in diameter and tension but a bit too long. I took it any way and cut it to size. I installed it and it seems to be fine. This will be a good temporary fix, until i get the proper part. I hope to install the dial in something soon and test it out.

Offline dencins

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Re: Repairing a 4H Dial
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2011, 03:49:02 PM »
Rigger, Welcome to the Forum.

My first stop would be to check with Steve Hilsz.  He has a web site:

www.navysalvage.com

His e-mail address is: jydsk@tds.net

He is the dial expert and often has spare parts.  He's a great guy and won't charge you an arm and a leg.  Tell him we sent you.

~Dennis

I recall seeing an email that Steve is as at a shipyard doing slavage work but I can not remember when he said he was returning.  You may get a delay trying to contact him.

I agree Steve's prices are very reasonable.

Another Dennis

Offline Rigger1

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Re: Repairing a 4H Dial
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2011, 09:06:36 AM »
I did send an email after looking at his site. The prices for dial cleaning and maintenance were surprising. Very reasonable! I am looking forward to his reply.

Offline HarrySmith

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Re: Repairing a 4H Dial
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2011, 09:31:06 AM »
Steve Hilz will repair, lubricate & calibrate your dial for only $6.00. Plus he is a really nice guy! Also has lots of phone parts. Here is his site: http://www.navysalvage.com/
He is on a salvage mission right now so he won't get back to you right away but he will reply as soon as he returns.
Harry Smith
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Offline Doug Rose

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Re: Repairing a 4H Dial
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2011, 02:14:56 PM »
Harry is 100% dead on with his assessment of Steve H. You will not find a nicer guy, in telephones or the real world. He charges the outrageous price of $6 to fix a dial, plus parts. I have never, ever have been charged for any additional parts.

I bought a NOS Military Switchboard from him at a very "reasonable" price (cheap),   it was refurbed in refurbed packing and complete. He unpacked it and repacked it to save me money in shipping. It was his idea.  Ask him for a part, he will look for it until he finds it. They don't come any better than the Dial King of AZ.....Doug
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Offline Rigger1

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Re: Repairing a 4H Dial
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2011, 09:23:20 PM »
Steve emailed me today. You guys are absolutely right about him. He is most certainly a good man.  He is sending me a spring for my dial at no charge. He also took the time to email a second time with pointers for cleaning and repairing the dial. My thanks for to Dennis and everyone else for steering me in the right direction. I am very glad to have found this forum. What a really good group of people. Bill