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Offline Doug Rose

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Re: The end of POTS?
« Reply #180 on: November 07, 2019, 09:22:46 AM »
I Refuse to go totally digital! as I have stated before, I hate cell phones.... I have 3 landlines! 1 home package with the internet and 2 more POTS lines! I tried to use Cableone and their system was all VOIP. Centurylink is what Mountain Bell has turned into.... and it still supports original WE equipment! Long Live POTS! (and Key systems!) I'll never give up my 1A1 system!
Three lines...triple the spam calls! Good stuff!
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Re: The end of POTS?
« Reply #181 on: November 07, 2019, 03:26:59 PM »
Three lines...triple the spam calls! Good stuff!

What's good about more spam calls? I don't get it.

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Re: The end of POTS?
« Reply #182 on: November 07, 2019, 05:56:52 PM »
What's good about more spam calls? I don't get it.
humor  ;D. ...Donít forget to tip you waiters, they will need it to pay for there lines...Doug
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Re: The end of POTS?
« Reply #183 on: November 07, 2019, 09:49:50 PM »
humor

Oh, sarcasm, an ironic or satirical remark tempered by humor mainly used to say the opposite of what's true.

Sarcasm never worked for me in business or my personal life - never knew what the truth really was when talking to anyone who liked to use sarcasm. And, they usually used it to make someone look or feel foolish. Not being a mind reader, I found it best all around to stay away from people like that.

Donít forget to tip you waiters, they will need it to pay for there lines...Doug

Now I'm confused by " . . . you waiters, they will need it to pay for there lines . . ." Waiters? Lines where? Sorry, I'm lost again. Was that also sarcasm, or some type of help I don't understand.


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Re: The end of POTS?
« Reply #184 on: November 08, 2019, 02:13:20 AM »
Could we please get back to the thread?

The end of POTS  ?

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Re: The end of POTS?
« Reply #185 on: November 08, 2019, 08:55:51 AM »
Oh, sarcasm, an ironic or satirical remark tempered by humor mainly used to say the opposite of what's true.

Sarcasm never worked for me in business or my personal life - never knew what the truth really was when talking to anyone who liked to use sarcasm. And, they usually used it to make someone look or feel foolish. Not being a mind reader, I found it best all around to stay away from people like that.

Now I'm confused by " . . . you waiters, they will need it to pay for there lines . . ." Waiters? Lines where? Sorry, I'm lost again. Was that also sarcasm, or some type of help I don't understand.


As stated, humor.  Most of the calls are spam calls on our home line. Three would be three times the spam calls. Humor. Sorry if I offended you. Hence the smiley face....Humor....Doug
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Re: The end of POTS?
« Reply #186 on: November 08, 2019, 12:19:33 PM »
I will admit that cell phones are getting popular.  There are programs where you can get a free cell phone and free service.  Because of such programs, now homeless people have cell phones.  You can't do that with POTS.  You need a permanent address for POTS.

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Re: The end of POTS?
« Reply #187 on: November 08, 2019, 04:13:35 PM »
I agree. the government program does offer free cell phones and service, of which I do have, but don't use. they give you a cheap "Q-Link" android phone and for most it works... but I'll keep my Pots service over that because I know it works and always has. at one time the phone company offered a simple pots line to low income people, that I think is gone now. Centurylink offers the POTS line for about $26.00/Mo. which is good if that's all you need. the day they start offering FREE phone and Internet service to low income people... that would be a blessing.... but they'd have to qualify.... as they always have had to... as for the whole POTS system, its not going to go any ware. as long as there are copper and fiber lines.... there will have to be POTS... the problem is, the advertising.... the phone companies don't tell you its still available! they want to lock you into a "Package" and then they make the money. at one point you even could do a 2 line package... and they took that away years ago. but, if you rent, or own your own place, Pots line should always be available... upon request!
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Re: The end of POTS?
« Reply #188 on: November 10, 2019, 03:16:01 PM »
The easiest way to preserve regular phone service is to HAVE IT, and not discontinue it!  If enough people have it, it will not go away.  If too few people have it, it WILL go away.  It is that simple.  Want regular phone service, as I have and refuse to get rid of, then subscribe to it.  It is not "too expensive".  If you can afford multiple cell phones and multiple cable services, and an outrageously expensive German car, you can afford phone service.

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Re: The end of POTS?
« Reply #189 on: November 11, 2019, 04:15:18 PM »
The easiest way to preserve regular phone service is to HAVE IT, and not discontinue it!  If enough people have it, it will not go away.  If too few people have it, it WILL go away.  It is that simple.  Want regular phone service, as I have and refuse to get rid of, then subscribe to it.  It is not "too expensive".  If you can afford multiple cell phones and multiple cable services, and an outrageously expensive German car, you can afford phone service.

I did believe that too, but now 2 people I know has got the message, your line is faulty, we are not going to look for the fault, thank you for the cooperation, and good bye.

That is the level of service for a line at cost of nearly 3 cellphones.

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Re: The end of POTS
« Reply #190 on: November 11, 2019, 08:10:49 PM »
Look up at the telephone lines in your neighborhood, do you see a line with insulation falling off it?  Yup.....Itís a copper line for POTS service.

Think there might be some static on that line. Cross talk? Itís  not just going to your house, itís going from pole to pole. Same line that was there when Grampy and Nanny got their Telephone installed and paid for it over and over again with the monthly fees.

Wait until it rains.

Think they can find a clean pair to you? For how long?

Why would the Telephone provider go under the enormous expense to upgrade the copper path when it is already there digitally.

If POTS is not dead, it sure is dying....Doug

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Re: The end of POTS?
« Reply #191 on: November 12, 2019, 10:02:06 AM »
I've been a telco contractor for 13 years now. With my interest in the history and evolution of the telephone network, it's blatantly obvious to me that telecoms (or should I say, giant media conglomerates who happen to own telecoms) want to limp the copper networks along as long as possible and only do band-aid repairs so they can maximize profits from obsolete networks that were probably written off the books years ago.

I've taken many photos of aerial terminals and pedestals that I've worked in, and it's a wonder they even work at all anymore. They'll have techs go around "re-building" terminals, but all they're doing is removing the old metal covers, pulling back the old ring cuts to expose copper that hasn't been weathered, and splicing in a fresh section to join the two ends back together. Sometimes they don't even do that. A new plastic terminal cover is put over top of the existing splices since they're like guitar strings and they break off at the old ring cuts, so there isn't enough to work with.

The spans between the poles get damaged from squirrels, birds, trees, lightning strikes, garage fires, etc. But nothing is really done unless more than one or two people are affected. All we do is line transfer orders (LTO) by hopefully finding a good spare pair. That's nearly impossible, as there aren't many spares left, so we have to look at "drop lines" which are pairs previously assigned to other customers, usually in other terminals and quite often between my customers terminal and the cross-connect. Sometimes we're lucky and the drop line is in a terminal past the customer. If that doesn't work, they say test some pairs flagged defective, which could've been 10 or 15 years ago.

If an aerial service drop is damaged, we hang new ones, but it's still being hooked up to distribution cable that was put up in the 60's or 70's. I still have to work in some super old "Reliable" terminals with rubber covers. Those might be from the 50's but I have yet to find any historical photos to prove it. Only found a drawing of one like this: http://telephone.bouwman.com/Michigan/Lambertville/Terminal.html

I could go on, but I should get to work. I might have a call to go fix someone's line that's randomly dialing 911  >:(