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Re: AECo "Monophone Tool"
« Reply #45 on: March 16, 2012, 05:42:07 AM »
This has been an interesting thread, and one which resulted in a great conclusion. Contact Gary via the email  link on his website: http://www.telephonecollector.info/
as noted in Remco's message.

While I don't have one of Gary's Monophone Tool, I do have one of his AE dial tools, and it is perfect. I did eventually find an original tool, but they are rare - it took me several years to find one. If I hadn't, I wouldn't have hesitated to order one of Gary's.

As noted above, they aren't the same as the original tool, but 100% functional, and bear the advantage of having the crossbar on them to allow better grip. Just shows there is more than one way to skin a cat.

Get your orders in early, you wouldn't want to miss out. Thanks, guys for taking part in this thread!

Now, what rare tool are we going to try to find next? :-\

Dave
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Re: AECo "Monophone Tool"
« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2012, 05:35:43 PM »

Hello Dave,

I have asked Gary about making another batch of the AE dial tool. His reaction was positive and we will probably put them in the TCI Company store at : http://www.telephonecollectors.org/store/store.htm

I will open a new topic when I know more.
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Re: AECo "Monophone Tool"
« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2012, 09:59:04 AM »
Hi All:

My monophone tool arrived this morning. I am posting a larger photo of it with quarters for a size reference.

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Re: AECo "Monophone Tool"
« Reply #48 on: March 28, 2012, 01:00:55 PM »
Dave,
          American Electric had one also  H-43173  ( Am. Electric , Bulletin 100, pg. 25 ) (Tool pictured is a AE  H-50754-1 )   stub
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Re: AECo "Monophone Tool"
« Reply #49 on: March 28, 2012, 01:10:26 PM »
Those are Canadian quarters, does that mean it's metric?   :D

Hi All:

My monophone tool arrived this morning. I am posting a larger photo of it with quarters for a size reference.

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Re: AECo "Monophone Tool"
« Reply #50 on: March 28, 2012, 01:23:05 PM »
Those are Canadian quarters, does that mean it's metric?   :D

Hi All:

My monophone tool arrived this morning. I am posting a larger photo of it with quarters for a size reference.

Dave
No metric back then - these were made before we went metric!
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Re: AECo "Monophone Tool"
« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2012, 01:30:22 PM »
American Electric had one also  H-43173  ( Am. Electric , Bulletin 100, pg. 25 ) (Tool pictured is a AE  H-50754-1 )   stub
That would make sense, as American electric was a licensee of Automatic Electric patents. They, too had monophones. From their Bul. 100 catalog:

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Re: AECo "Monophone Tool"
« Reply #52 on: March 28, 2012, 01:37:17 PM »
Dave....was American Electric the fore runner of Automatic Electric and Automatic Electric continued to sell its manual sets under the American Electric name or were they just a division?. I always thought American Electric became Automatic Electric. Never really have heard a distinctive answer on it....thanks...Doug
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Re: AECo "Monophone Tool"
« Reply #53 on: March 28, 2012, 01:40:44 PM »
Dave....was American Electric the fore runner of Automatic Electric and Automatic Electric continued to sell its manual sets under the American Electric name or were they just a division?. I always thought American Electric became Automatic Electric. Never really have heard a distinctive answer on it....thanks...Doug

Hi Doug:

Neither have I, but essentially, in later days, Am. Electric became a division of Automatic, rather than the other way around.... American Electric kept going as an entity, long after Automatic Electric began its operations. It would be interesting if anyone could give a definitive answer to your question! It then becomes sort of a chicken or the egg mystery!  :)

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Re: AECo "Monophone Tool"
« Reply #54 on: March 28, 2012, 03:07:01 PM »
Dave,
           In" Old -Time Telephones" 2nd edition by Ralph O. Meyer , pg 58 says that The Gary Group   (Automatic Electric's parent company) bought AM Electric Company and Monarch Telephone Manufacturing Company in 1926.   stub
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Re: AECo "Monophone Tool"
« Reply #55 on: March 28, 2012, 03:30:19 PM »
Dave,
           In" Old -Time Telephones" 2nd edition by Ralph O. Meyer , pg 58 says that The Gary Group   (Automatic Electric's parent company) bought AM Electric Company and Monarch Telephone Manufacturing Company in 1926.   stub
But as American Electric was producing phones using Automatics design before that, which they were, there must have been a relationship between Automatic Electric and American Electric before Gary Group made that acquisition. Wonder what year Gary Group picked up Automatic? Perhaps at that time, they only purchased Automatic [I aswered that one myself - 1918], then later picked up American?

http://www.bobsoldphones.net/Pages/Automatic%20Electric/Automatic%20Electric%20History.htm

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Re: AECo "Monophone Tool"
« Reply #56 on: March 28, 2012, 03:39:05 PM »
Dave,
          In 1901, the Strowger company formed a new company, the Automatic Electric Company, to handle marketing and production. The Strowger company now acted only as a holder of the patents. Meyer retired and Harris became Vice President. Keith became General Superintendent. The design and manufacturing staff still included the Erickson brothers. By 1910 the company employed 850 workers.
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Re: AECo "Monophone Tool"
« Reply #57 on: March 28, 2012, 03:48:55 PM »
But if you look on the same page, you will see that Gary Group didn't buy Automatic Electric until after 1918. Perhaps your posting still may explain the relationship, in that Automatic may have licensed their designs to American after 1901, but never actually acquired American until 1926

Interesting - I just noticed the No. 100 catalog came out in 1929, after the two were "officially" under the same ownership. It is interesting when you go into the corporate "fanagling" that resulted in the growth of well known companies!

Also of interest, the monophone tool in it is $2.23!
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Re: AECo "Monophone Tool"
« Reply #58 on: March 28, 2012, 09:06:24 PM »
From "A History of GTE":

Automatic Electric Company was organized in 1901 to exclusively manufacture Strowger equipment under a royalty agreement. They moved into a new 6 story building at the corner of Morgan and Van Buren Streets on Chicago's west side. In 1908 the Automatic Electric Company purchased all domestic and foreign rights from the Strowger Company, consolidating under the Automatic Electric Company name.

In 1919 Theodore Gary exercised his option to purchase Automatic Electric of Chicago Illinois. He saw an opportunity to sell Automatic equipment to Theodore Vail, president of AT&T after an operators strike in the boston area had been settled quite unfavorably for the Bell Telephone Company.

Theodore Gary Company organized the American Electric Company Inc in 1926 to manufacture and market manual telephones and switchboards as well as to distribute construction materials, tools and miscellaneous supplies.

In it's struggle to get through the depression, Theodore Gary Company liquidated the American Electric Company in 1934.

General Telephone Corporation purchased its first telephone equipment manufacturing subsidiary when it purchased Leich Electric in November 1950. Leich was headquartered in Chicago with a manufacturing plant in Genoa Illinois.

GTE of Stamford Connecticut merged with the Theodore Gary Company on October 31, 1955.

Leich Electric continued to operate independantly of Automatic Electric after GTE acquired Theodore Gary & Company in October 1955 but Leich was formerly consolidated into Automatic Electric in 1962.

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Re: AECo "Monophone Tool"
« Reply #59 on: March 29, 2012, 10:23:52 AM »
thanks Terry.....good information....Doug
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