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Offline Doug Rose

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Re: passing on the collection...
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2011, 09:53:16 AM »
Doug Rose:

Didn't you start a thread in the past on this topic? 6 to 12 months ago. I can't seem to find it at the moment but undoubtable there will be more good responses in that thread as well.

Someone was telling me fairly recently about a program from one of the European or maybe it was Australia/New Zealand clubs where they did just this sort of thing. They had a program to handle the distribution of collections from deceased (or maybe even downsizing) club members. That seemed like a WIN-WIN-WIN arrangement to me for all concerned parties. Phones went to good homes, the estate got what they were worth rather than garage sale pricing, club memebers got a good shot at adding to their collections at reasonable and fair prices.

I think this would be  something that the North American clubs should really consider looking at.

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Re: Passing on your Phone Collection discussion ...
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2013, 11:20:16 PM »
heres a good question... how does one make sure that their telephone collection stays within these collector groups when he/she passes on.... even though its written in thier will, the family doesnt always follow through... what kind of services does ATCA and TCI have for keeping the phones safe from the thrift stores... or is that a good way to start collecting.... I have several 300 and 400 series phones, all in working order and I don't want them just "thrown out" so to speak when its time... what do you all think??

I would love the opportunity to give my opinion on this topic considering I recently inherited my Dad's collection. First, I would suggest keeping an updated list of your collection with notes about what you know about it. Second, tell your loved ones about your collection, knowledge is key. I found myself second guessing myself and picking things out of the garbage that ended up being valuable (IL Bell papers, pencils and magazines). I cringe at the thought I might have thrown out something valuable. We filled up 2- 30 yard dump trucks.
While my experience is an extreme one, I wish he would have enjoyed what he collected more. I never knew about most of the items because they were hidden away. In my opinion, a collection that is hidden away in the attic or in your basement is just stuff. A collection is something you should enjoy, look at at and be proud of. Show it off! And don't count on your loved one to love it as much as you did but give them the tools to make sure it does not end up in a garage sale for 2 bucks. 
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Re: Passing on your Phone Collection discussion ...
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2013, 06:20:34 AM »

I would love the opportunity to give my opinion on this topic considering I recently inherited my Dad's collection. First, I would suggest keeping an updated list of your collection with notes about what you know about it. Second, tell your loved ones about your collection, knowledge is key. I found myself second guessing myself and picking things out of the garbage that ended up being valuable (IL Bell papers, pencils and magazines). I cringe at the thought I might have thrown out something valuable. We filled up 2- 30 yard dump trucks.
While my experience is an extreme one, I wish he would have enjoyed what he collected more. I never knew about most of the items because they were hidden away. In my opinion, a collection that is hidden away in the attic or in your basement is just stuff. A collection is something you should enjoy, look at at and be proud of. Show it off! And don't count on your loved one to love it as much as you did but give them the tools to make sure it does not end up in a garage sale for 2 bucks.  
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Hi Maureen and others:

Yes, you have an extreme example of this, and to be honest, you must have felt pretty overwhelmed by it at times!

But at least, you are trying to deal with it in the best way you can. Your father almost certainly wanted to pass his collection along to you, but didn't realize how overwhelming it might be. How much easier it would have been had he kept some sort of inventory.

My family will have the same problem when I am gone. I have been trying to get my son to come and spend time in the museum, so he can have an idea of what is there, and the value of the items. He has promised, but still hasn't found the time. Ideas we have passed around are to do a careful photo inventory with written notes to guide him. I have it somewhat done, but he needs to be there while I complete it to make sure he understands how it works. I do hope it gets done - he promises in the spring. Every new phone, I try to make sure he has in his hands, and learns about it.

My hope is that they can continue on with the museum when I am gone, and am working towards that goal. But there will be the odd non-display item they might as well liquidate, and they need to know what those items are.

They are beginning to get a better appreciation of it, I think.

I remember, a couple of years ago, I had a visitor to the museum who had just lost his father, an ex-employee of MT&T. He kept a few really interesting pieces of interest to him, but then hauled 5 dump truck loads of telephones to the dump. He had no idea there was interest in it, and nearly broke down and wept when he saw the collection here, when it dawned on him that is had such value.

So, we as collectors have to make sure our family are aware of what we actually have. In a way, at least my family will be in a bit better shape, as I have had the collection available to the public, and over the years, I hope some of what I have told them of it has stuck!

Yours has been a bit of a baptism in fire, hasn't it! But in the end, your father left what he loved to you, and as you are now appreciating, the value goes far beyond sentimental.  

But you are doing it the responsible way, and I am sure your father would be proud of you. I know I would be if I were him.  You are educating yourself in what you actually have, and if I can read between the lines a bit, it appears as though you are beginning to enjoy the quest!

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Re: Passing on your Phone Collection discussion ...
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2013, 08:03:38 PM »
Awwww, Thanks for the kind words DavePEI!
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Re: Passing on your Phone Collection discussion ...
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2013, 06:51:34 PM »
When I die I really don't think I will care and I'm certainly won't worry about it. What ever my kids do with them is  fine with me.

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Re: Passing on your Phone Collection discussion ...
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2013, 11:26:38 AM »
When I attend the Southern California phone show earlier this month,  there were a couple of ladies selling their late fathers/husbands collections.  While they did show sadness when talking about their late fathers/husbands their dispositions and faces lit up when they talked about their loved ones collection items going to new homes.  My wife and I connected with one seller, Linda,  and we bought many items from her.

This reminds me of the time I had my great-grandfather's uniform from the Spanish American War. It was just sitting in a box in the garage slowly deteriorating.  On a local antique store trip I discovered a person that has his personal military museum displayed in his antique store.  To make a long story short,  I sold it to him because I believed he would cherish it more than I would.  It went to good home.......
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Re: Passing on your Phone Collection discussion ...
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2013, 12:16:47 PM »
From a collectors standpoint, I think that's the best we can hope for.  We have great pride for these pieces of history we've collected or "saved" as it is in our minds.  As long as the stuff I've collected goes to someone(or many someones) who will continue to appreciate it, I'd be happy.  The big fear is that it will fall into the hands of someone who doesn't care and it just ends up being thrown out.  I'm still young(turned 25 today, actually) but this is still something I think about.  We're lucky to have a large amount of really neat telephone stuff, I really hope after a few more decades I'll be able to find a way for it to survive beyond me.

Just this past weekend I met an older(late 60s) railroad collector.  He has what he believes to be the largest hand car collection in the US(probably the world).   Picture an old cowboy movie where the bad guys are trying to run away on one of those pump powered railroad cars that is just big enough for 2 people to stand on...  He has several in his back yard, several in his garage, he even has pedal operated ones that you ride like a bike.  He's been collecting and restoring them for probably 40 years and he just recently made the decision to sell them all.  He said he has hopes a museum will be interested in them, but he isn't sure.

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Re: Passing on your Phone Collection discussion ...
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2014, 08:16:29 PM »
When I do pass on I'm taking my collection with me. I will be buried in my phone booth with my phones and signs.
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Re: Passing on your Phone Collection discussion ...
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2014, 08:37:44 PM »
When I do pass on I'm taking my collection with me. I will be buried in my phone booth with my phones and signs.
An excellent plan, and an admirable one. For the sake of the pallbearers, I do so hope that your booth isn't a GPO Kx type! :o

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Re: Passing on your Phone Collection discussion ...
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2014, 11:09:44 PM »
better make sure you are buried with some change, you may need it to make a call from heaven!
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Re: Passing on your Phone Collection discussion ...
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2014, 01:17:23 AM »
When I do pass on I'm taking my collection with me. I will be buried in my phone booth with my phones and signs.

I see a problem......I have two full booths....

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« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2014, 01:58:35 PM »
What problem, Terry?

If you don't have enough phones to fill the second booth, keep buying!   ;D
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Re: passing on the collection...
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2016, 04:25:35 PM »
I believe I'm lucky in this respect.  Actually, my dad is lucky because I'm around to keep the collection going.  I'm only 23, so my time is a ways off yet, but hopefully 60 or 70 years from now someone other than me will have a respect for old telephones?  My 1 1/2 year old daughter loves playing with the old phones(she absolutely LOVES running into the phone booth, shutting the door, and waving at us from inside.  Maybe she'll keep on liking them.  My fingers are crossed for that.  ---Eric
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Re: Passing on your Phone Collection discussion ...
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2016, 03:17:48 PM »
I just wanted to add to this thread now I've found it.

My personal thoughts are that collectors should try to work with the many excellent museums, both large and small, that are out there. And why wait until you're dead either? As someone said, a collection is at it's best when it's on display. So why not offer your collection on long term or permanent loan to a local museum and take a bit of time you would normally spend tinkering at home to do a bit of tinkering there instead and pass on some of your knowledge to anyone interested who happens to be passing?

From what I've seen, the US seems to be blessed with space which we don't have much of here in the UK. You guys have lots of little roadside museums with really interesting and quirky collections. Maybe some of them would be interested in a telephone display?

At the moment most of my collection is in the loft at home in boxes. But I'd much rather it was out on display somewhere and maybe even being used!

I don't think it's abotu the monetary value at all. How do you value stuff like this anyway? To someone interested a particular phone might be worth quite a bit. But to most people a dial phone that won't work with modern touch-tone services is utterly worthless. Only the otehr day I was talking to a young guy who told me that a couple of years ago at work he was throwing out 20-30 GPO 700 seriese phones every day. They all went in a skip and ended up in landfill! Just months ago I spoke to another guy who told me he had taken a Strowger PAX to the dump a couple of weeks earlier because the charity he ran had moved out of the building and he didn't think anyone would want it! So one man's treasure is definitely another man's trash.

To get a good collection of anything you really need to be a bit visionary and start collecting it before it becomes generally collectable. So you buy at scrap prices, but what it's actual value is (or will be in the future) as an historic object is open to much debate. We all think what we collect is valuable and like to think the next generation will either treasure it or sell it for a vast fortune at a specialist auction. But the sad truth is it's much more likely to not be appreciated for it's true worth unless it is protected in some kind of a museum environment.

I totally agree about keeping up to date records about what you have in your collection. This is basically also how museum accessioning and collections management works. If you follow accessioning guidelines, even if you don't run a museum, it will make your collection much more accessible both now and in the future and you'll be able to keep a far better track on what you have and what might need to find a new home. If you tell your local museum you have a collectiuon of something and you'd like to know how to start an accession register to catalogue it, most will be only too hapy to help you. They might even offer to take care of all or part of your collection at some point in the future for the next generation to enjoy.
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