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Re: Examples of Reproduction Wall Phones
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2013, 08:59:08 PM »
Belgium backboard and battery box

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Re: Western Electric?
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2013, 08:51:20 PM »
fake 1317 “This telephone has no internal works”
--note the finger joints (not)

"Antique Western Electric Oak Wall Telephone Case Cathedral Top Note Desk"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151020934609

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Re: Western Electric?
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2013, 08:55:46 PM »
fake 51AL and  fake 150G---nothing Western Electric on either one
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Re: Western Electric?
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2013, 09:08:29 PM »
fake 2-box---all new wood other than the top box---don't see anything Western Electric
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Re: Western Electric?
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2013, 10:04:08 PM »
#4 looks like a GPO set,Next to  last posting is old wood but Bell Telephone Mfg belgium (backboard and battery compartment.Ebay needs to stop key word spamming example Kellogg telephone not Western Electric. I get enough bad hits to sift through anyway

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Re: Western Electric?
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2013, 10:08:38 PM »
It's great that you're showing these examples of fake wood phones.  I know I've watched a couple of these phones on Ebay, not realizing that they were fakes.  After I've purchased and worked on a few more wood phones I'll be better able to tell the difference, but in the meantime it's scary to think that I might fall victim to one of these phones.  Thanks for the education!
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Re: Western Electric?
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2013, 12:43:32 PM »
Here is a variant from our local Craigslist, at http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/atq/3722285597.html

The ad is titled "wenstern antique telephone - $1"
The text of the ad describes it as
OLD VINTAGE ANTIQUE WENSTERN ELECTRIC WOOD WALL MOUNT UP TELEPHONE $ 150 obo

It is not old
It is not vintage.
It is not antique.
It is not "Wenstern Electric"
It is not "Western Electric"
It may be wood (most likely pressboard)
It is not $1

Other than that, a pretty nice item. Hurry! Send your money right away!

Bill

« Last Edit: April 09, 2013, 12:45:22 PM by Bill »

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Re: Western Electric?
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2013, 01:07:58 PM »
Actually, it *is* Western Electric or their later name AT&T Technologies. Model 2951. WE bought the oak boxes from a company in Indiana IIRC  and added WE parts. They sold for about $279.

I talked to the owner of that company one time; he had left over oak boxes and said he could sell me some that had not been cut for the dial opening.

http://paul-f.com/weDesignLine.html
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Re: Examples of Reproduction Wall Phones
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2013, 10:06:18 PM »
Antique Western Electric Wooden Wall Phone .Cool Old Phone / Displays Great!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4612331817

Displays Great if your display is "How to make a phone from PhoneCo replica parts"

There is a real Western Electric transmitter faceplate and the replica receiver is fairly valuable.  The box is not WE.  That lightning arrestor is a tip-off, as is the round thing on the side.  Also the lack of Western Electric markings and dates stamped into the side.  WE never used metal tags on three box telephones, they always have stamped logos.  If they used metal tags it was really late, and only on magneto or ringer boxes and those tags were very small.
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Re: Examples of Reproduction Wall Phones
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2013, 10:44:17 PM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/300953049111
works better.

Here's a revealing shot of the inside: repro hookswitch and an air gap between the transmitter and the rest of the phone.
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Re: Examples of Reproduction Wall Phones
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2013, 08:26:07 AM »
I didn't even get as far as the insides! 

The vast majority of WE two boxers did not use brackets to mount ringer bells
The magneto has been repainted and had a fake sticker added.
ALthough "pony" phones were made from three-boxers, they were removed from the backboard in the process.
WE Two boxers almost always used a #5 or #10 arm to mount the transmitter
WE battery boxes were not held on with latches in that manner
The lip on the writing shelf is created by gluing two parts of wood together.  They routered a groove into the shelf and glued the lip into it.  Real examples used multiple pieces but the lip is always carved from the lower part of the shelf, not glued on.
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Re: Examples of Reproduction Wall Phones
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2013, 11:28:09 AM »
Another BTM (Belgium) battery box and backboard

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Re: Examples of Reproduction Wall Phones
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2013, 12:04:26 PM »
I'll have to admit that I was attracted to this one.  I guess I was attracted to all the glitter - much like the women I dated.  Glad I didn't fall for this one!
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Re: Examples of Reproduction Wall Phones
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2013, 12:06:29 PM »
Someone made the mistake I almost made.  BIN for $325
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Re: Examples of Reproduction Wall Phones
« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2013, 10:40:49 PM »
$391 dollars!!! Yikes! I did not warn about this sooner because I thought it was an obvious piece of junk.  Someone got burned!  Here are some recent sales (last year or so) that are more indicative of the true value of a WE 2-boxer:

As removed-from-service 240 with 7-digit transmitter and OST receiver and it cost me $400.



http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=7824.0

I bought an intact version of what this is supposed to be for $305.



My New England Telephone 2-boxer with beveled transmitter was $500.  



http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=7925.0

THESE WERE ALL PURCHASED OFF OF EBAY!!!

There are bargains to be had or nice phones to be bought for top dollar.  Educate yourself and don't throw your money away on junk!
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Greg Sargeant
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