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Re: Dial screws, are the all the same?
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2013, 12:54:39 AM »
Dave ,
           Here's what I use. Sorry, one is all I have.   stub
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Re: Dial screws, are the all the same?
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2013, 05:32:17 AM »
Dave ,
           Here's what I use. Sorry, one is all I have.   stub
That is ok, Stub. I will find one eventually. A thread gauge is on the way to me, which will help a lot to identify oddball threads!

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Re: Dial screws, are the all the same?
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2013, 09:07:49 AM »
Dave -

Would you consider making a "rescue kit" of maybe 6 of each oddball size, and selling them here? I, for one would probably buy such a kit and just tuck it away against a future urgent need.

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Re: Dial screws, are the all the same?
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2013, 10:46:15 AM »
Dave -

Would you consider making a "rescue kit" of maybe 6 of each oddball size, and selling them here? I, for one would probably buy such a kit and just tuck it away against a future urgent need.

Bill
Hi Bill:

I would be willing to do this, but I would have to consider the purchase price by me, and the cost of mailing to me, plus then mailing to you...

Most of these can be ordered from Oldphoneworks, i.e. the dial screws and the screws for transmitters.... We should check and see what it would cost if you ordered them directly from them - I know they charge about $9 to ship an order, but if you ordered them all at the same time, there is a good chance you would get them all for the one shipping charge.

See:http://www.oldphoneworks.com/_search.php?page=1&q=dial+screws

My concern is if I tried to ship enough to make a "kit" that is might go above the first class rate, and force it to go express, which would put up the price.

But, yes I will see if I can price something out. The ones I am not certain if I can provide are the ones for the Spacesavers, as I don't have many ordered, but I can give you the eBay URL for them:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/121102224544

These are cap heads as opposed to the original round slotted head type, but should work fine, as they are the correct thread...

Now, postage is a funny thing. It might actually be cheaper for me to send them in two envelopes, e.g. half in one envelope and the other half in another to keep them both within first class rates (much cheaper than express, but slower).

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Re: Dial screws, are the all the same?
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2013, 09:52:48 AM »
Thanks, Dave -

It was just a thought, and a more of a general question than a real "need'. I'm a big fan of having emrgency kits of almost anything important on hand.  A generator for extended power failures, extra gas for the generator, a couple bushels of emergency food in the closet, a kit of spare fuses in my RV, and so forth. Kinda OCD, I know. Thanks for considering it.

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Re: Dial screws, are the all the same?
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2013, 04:34:33 PM »
Thanks, Dave -

It was just a thought, and a more of a general question than a real "need'. I'm a big fan of having emrgency kits of almost anything important on hand.  A generator for extended power failures, extra gas for the generator, a couple bushels of emergency food in the closet, a kit of spare fuses in my RV, and so forth. Kinda OCD, I know. Thanks for considering it.

Bill
Hi Bill:

Yes, well I share that same OCD with you. I like to have spares of commonly use parts as well.

When I get a change, I can put together a cost for the most common screws. It will be my cost to here, plus cost of shipping. As I mentioned, they way our first class prices mailing prices work, it would be cheapest to split them between a couple of envelopes.

I wouldn't want to get involved with selling a lot, as it would deplete my rescue kit, but a few I could do...

What would be really great, is if we could interest one of the telephone vendors in making up a kit in a small plastic box containing say, ten of the most common sizes and selling them for a reasonable price.

Meanwhile, I am keeping my eyes open for other commonly used sizes, and will be ammending/adding them to the list above, and trying to find sources for them.  My 1/2 inch dial screws arrived today, thankfully, so that will fill that spot in the box.

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Re: Dial screws, are the all the same?
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2013, 06:02:17 PM »
Any idea what size the screws for 29S (AE), 21B (NE) and 10G (WE) upper housing locks for pay phones are?
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Re: Dial screws, are the all the same?
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2013, 07:47:26 PM »
Dave -
 
     The ones I am not certain if I can provide are the ones for the Spacesavers, as I don't have many ordered, but I can give you the eBay URL for them:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/121102224544

These are cap heads as opposed to the original round slotted head type, but should work fine, as they are the correct thread...


Dave,

     Here are some other sources for the 8-36 x 1/2 socket head cap screws...

http://tinyurl.com/lfeqnt8

http://tinyurl.com/l8bpklu

http://tinyurl.com/jvnfu8a

 I poked around a bit over the weekend; will let you know directly if I find a better supplier. Not at all sure what the postage would be to PEI, or KS, for that matter. More research is required on my part. Certainly a bunch cheaper per screw, though. :D

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Re: Dial screws, are the all the same?
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2013, 05:19:51 AM »

     Here are some other sources for the 8-36 x 1/2 socket head cap screws...

http://tinyurl.com/lfeqnt8

http://tinyurl.com/l8bpklu

http://tinyurl.com/jvnfu8a

 I poked around a bit over the weekend; will let you know directly if I find a better supplier. Not at all sure what the postage would be to PEI, or KS, for that matter. More research is required on my part. Certainly a bunch cheaper per screw, though. :D

     Best regards!

Terrence

Hi Terrence:

The problem with these ones, is that they aren't threaded all the way up to the head, and would run out of thread before screwing all the way in. You would have to use multiple washers under the head in order to tighten them down on a Spacesaver.

Those I found are threaded all the way up to the head, resulting in them being a better choice. BTW, from the same seller, you can buy them in 100 lots, too:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/181039450697

100 for  $10.90 (7 Day Sale price)

Dave

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Re: Dial screws, are the all the same?
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2013, 12:09:07 PM »
Copper State Nut and Bolt has 8-36 button head cap screws in 3/8, 5/8, and 3/4 inch lengths. Prices not given, but a good outfit - I have dealt with them.

Button heads have a hex recess like a cap screw, but a round head instead of upright. They would look good on any telephone, I think.

They also have socket head 8-36 cap screws, but the picture suggests that they are not threaded all the way to the top.

Copper State is a decent source for a lot of weird fasteners.

Bill

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Re: Dial screws, are the all the same?
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2013, 02:05:39 PM »
Hi Terrence:

The problem with these ones, is that they aren't threaded all the way up to the head,
Those I found are threaded all the way up to the head,

Dave
Dave,

     Thanks for the clarification; it saved me from making an unwise purchase that would have ultimately served no practical purpose!

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Re: Dial screws sizes (Plus other telephone screw sizes!)
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2014, 03:01:11 PM »
My supply of zinc 12-24 x 3/4 slot headed machine screws have arrived. These are the correct size for screwing a magneto on a wood phone.

There is no charge for one ot two other than postage. I used to be able to send these for under $3.00 - recently Canada Post have changed the rules, and anything going out first class has to be made if paper, so now these would have to be sent small packet at a cost of $8.03

I will also trade small numbers for other useful sizes of telecom bolts. I will pay to ship yours and you to ship mine. I currently have 250 of these hard to find bolts.

I wish that I could get past the postage thing. I have so much I would share if it didn't cost so much to ship. Best way is to turn up at the door of the museum with a vehicle with lots of cargo space!

Dave
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Re: Dial screws sizes (Plus other telephone screw sizes!)
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2014, 07:22:27 PM »
For WE dial you will also need flat washers or some sort of spacer to prevent the heads from coming through the oversize holes in the case.  This is especially true of the 300 and 5300 models.

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Re: Dial screws sizes (Plus other telephone screw sizes!)
« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2014, 03:23:51 PM »
Some pics of screws from a 500 set for future reference.  I'm not sure what that part is called that's underneath the switch hook plungers, for now I called it a retainer.


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Re: Dial screws sizes (Plus other telephone screw sizes!)
« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2015, 11:46:02 AM »
Need info on screw sizes for multi-slot pay phones:

                        Western Electric/Northern Electric:

                                Coin Vault Door (14- or 30-type lock)

                                Large screw for coin chute

                                Upper Housing Lock (10-G, 10-H or 21-B)

                         Automatic Electric:

                                 Vault door (10-L type lock)

                                 Coin chute

                                 Upper Housing Lock (29-S)

Thanks
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