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Offline Fabius

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Switchboard Lamps
« on: June 25, 2019, 05:17:02 PM »
Is there a reference anywhere that gives the specifications on the different types of Western Electric switchboard lamps? Lots of lamps show up on eBay and I’d Like to know if they’d be suitable for my needs.
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Re: Switchboard Lamps
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2019, 05:29:00 PM »
I think there was only 2 types. 24 volt and 48 volt
your power supply dictates which you need

Offline Jim Stettler

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Re: Switchboard Lamps
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2019, 07:45:38 PM »
I think there was only 2 types. 24 volt and 48 volt
your power supply dictates which you need
You can run the 48v lamps on 24v. They will be dimmer than with 48v, but they will last a lot longer.
I have seen a BSP on Lamps. I would try a google search of the TCI library.
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Re: Switchboard Lamps
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2019, 09:20:14 PM »
Western Electric Switchboard Lamps

     Carbon Filament
     ===============
              current
 code volts  min    max

 2C    15   .103   .12
 2E    20   .09    .12
 2F    12   .105   .12
 2G    24   .075   .115
 2J    24   .018   .033
 2K    30   .09    .12
 2R    18   .09    .12
 2T    40   .034   .046
 2U    24   .035   .048
 2W    18   .035   .045
 2Y    48   .03    .042


     Tungsten Filament
     =================
 A1    24   .033   .045
 A2    24   .075   .105
 B2    18   .036   .048
 C2    36   .032   .044
 E1     6   .033   .045
 E2     6   .27    .31   (replaces 2H)
 E3     6   .12    .16   (replaces 2H)
 F1     4   .17    .21   (replaces 2A)
 F2     4   .27    .31   (replaces 2B)
 G1     8   .085   .10   (replaces 2P)
 G2     8   .035   .05
 H1    16   .27    .31   (replaces 2D)
 J1    10   .23    .27   (replaces 2L)
 K1    30   .033   .045
 K2    30   .032   .044

 51A   10   .035   .045  (for key phones)

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from TCI library -- Component Specifications --
https://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/browse/wiring-diagrams/western-electric/component-specifications

https://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/browse/wiring-diagrams/western-electric/component-specifications/2367-component-specifications-slamps-tl


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Re: Switchboard Lamps
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2019, 09:33:04 PM »
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Re: Switchboard Lamps
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2019, 01:59:34 AM »
FYI, just to remind all you guys... there is a source for the new LED lamps, www.superbrightleds.com They have the T2 lamps in 12-24 volt and are available in Green, Red, Yellow (Amber), Blue, and White. They work great in a switchboard setting because they are slightly longer then the regular 51A lamps and are high intensity so they can be used behind a colored lens. I use them in my alarm panel which uses the same type lamp holders that a 550 series switchboard uses. as far as a 48 volt version? not that I have found yet...
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Re: Switchboard Lamps
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2019, 02:55:28 AM »
I am old school. Use the proper lamps until you run out, then source NOS  from somewhere. LED alternates are an interesting sideview. But, by the  time collectors run out of proper lamps , the technology will be somewhere else.
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Re: Switchboard Lamps
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2019, 06:41:13 AM »
Ok, my ignorance is showing again... :-[
why on earth, would you need so many different voltages for lamps? ???
There has to be a tuning issue there somewhere???

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Re: Switchboard Lamps
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2019, 04:16:10 PM »
Yeh, I agree Jim. those lamps will last forever! all the lamps I have never been pushed to their full potential. even the 51A lamps don't burn out... haven't had to buy lamps forever except to try the LEDs. I basically bought those because of the colors... behind a white lens... you can add a good amount of color to your switchboard if you want to!
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Offline rdelius

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Re: Switchboard Lamps
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2019, 07:00:43 PM »
lamps selected for power supply voltages and possible loop length

Offline Babybearjs

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Re: Switchboard Lamps
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2019, 08:51:24 PM »
and that reminds me.... are some of those lamps wired in series with the actual phone line? I've forgotten the wiring on a switchboard... so used to seeing things controlled through relays!
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Offline Fabius

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Re: Switchboard Lamps
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2019, 09:50:10 PM »
Thanks for the great information. I always have trouble searching in TCI library due to ineptness on my part.

The builds in my 2 555s are K2.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2019, 11:00:10 AM by Fabius »
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Re: Switchboard Lamps
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2019, 12:43:17 PM »
The station lights are indeed tied to the RING side through switches.
The trunk/incoming call side light is also, but after a series of relays operate.
on a 555 board, anyway...
So...it does look like the bulbs were tuned to the loop length.
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Re: Switchboard Lamps
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2019, 04:33:15 PM »
Yup! then LEDS won't work in that situation... unless the circuit is modified to accept them...
John

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Re: Switchboard Lamps
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2019, 01:29:09 PM »

The builds in my 2 555s are K2.

Opps ??? Bulbs, not builds
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