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Telephone Talk => Collector's Corner => My Telephone Collection => Topic started by: andre_janew on December 15, 2014, 07:35:59 PM

Title: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on December 15, 2014, 07:35:59 PM
I'll start with a few pictures of my AE80 phone.  I'd like to tell you what year is was made, but I don't know and I probably don't know where to find it if it has one.

Next are a couple of pictures of my WE 302 phone.  Most of it was made in 1946.  The transmitter was made in 1937.  The dial is a 6J made in 1963.

Next is a picture of my beige WE 500 phone.  I bought it on eBay.  It was advertised as a 1972 model.  The parts have various dates from 1959 for the 425B network to 1980 for the case.  It is fully modular and was refurbished in 1980.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on December 16, 2014, 10:25:17 PM
Here are some more phones.  Here are a couple of pictures of my sea foam green 1966 Kellogg ITT 500 telephone.  This is a nice bright green color that seems to glow in the photos.

This is a photo a black 5300 series phone with an F-1 handset that I used to own.  Nice phone isn't it?  It brought only $8.99 at an eBay auction.  If you think it should've brought more than that, I agree.  I have no idea why it brought so little.

This is my black 1962 WE 500C dial-less telephone.  It was seen in the November 2014 Find of the Month.  Notice the fat white line cord in the picture.  It came with a slightly yellowed clear cord that seemed to have four white wires.  I changed it to the white one because it had a 4-prong plug and because the wires inside are different colors.  It also makes a nice contrast with the black phone.  If you want to see it from the front, go to the thread I mentioned earlier.www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=12963.0 (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=12963.0)

This is my light blue WE 2500 phone.  The parts on it range from 1972 for the transmitter to 1982 for the case.  It is one of those phones that is fully modular and was also refurbished in the early 1980s.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on December 18, 2014, 07:07:48 PM
This is my avocado 1972 Trimline phone.  It is also in the December 2014 Find of the Month as well as here.  www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=13164.msg139101#msg139101 (http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=13164.msg139101#msg139101)
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on December 18, 2014, 07:22:15 PM
Now here are a couple of two tone phones I created.  Not only are these two tone phones, they are also Kellogg/WE hybrids.  They are now back to their original single color state.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on December 25, 2014, 04:55:11 PM
Here are a couple of pictures of my black phone with a beige dial.  It is a single line phone.  I mention this because I've heard someone else has a phone similar to this one, but it is a two line phone.

Here are a couple of pictures of my beige phone with a black dial blank.  Like all of my phones, it is a single line phone as well.  I don't think anyone else has a phone like this one, but I could be wrong.

Now we have a couple of pictures of my dial face.  It uses a 4H dial.  Some of you may say it looks like a rotary dial subset.  Perhaps it is.  Maybe it could be used with a WE 500 series phone.  Maybe not.  I just don't know.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on December 25, 2014, 05:29:35 PM
Here are a couple of pictures of my Trans 2012A.  It is a transformer that puts out 6 to 8 volts AC.  It is used for lighting on phones like the early Princess model.  I bought it hoping that it had an output of 6 to 8 volts DC so it could be used for non-phone applications!

Here are a couple of pictures of the dial blank used on a WE 302 phone.  This one is made of metal and came off a 1946 phone with a plastic case.

Now we have a couple of pictures of a 164C dial plate that was made in 1959.  This one was typically used on 5300 series telephones.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on December 25, 2014, 06:08:36 PM
I thought it would be a good idea to get a couple of pictures of the 4H dial by itself.  If you are looking for a green four leaf clover on the back, you will be disappointed because it isn't there.

I also thought it would be a good idea to get a couple of pictures of the dial plate of the 4H dial by itself.  It might also fit a 5H dial, but a #6 dial would be out of the question.

Why do they always use these odd looking washers on dials?  Yes, I know space is at a premium and they can't use split lock washers.  Even so, wouldn't a simple star lock washer be just as effective?
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on December 25, 2014, 06:24:18 PM
Here is the line cord that came with my all black 1962 500C dial-less telephone.  Notice that the outer covering has a yellowish tint to it.  Notice that all the wires are white.  It tends to make wiring more difficult.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on December 29, 2014, 06:33:17 PM
Now for something a little different.  Although not officially an antique or classic phone, my cell phone is used to find out if the ringer on one of my old phones still works or not.  I also call my cell with my land line to see if the dial on a phone works or not.  My cell is also used to make phone calls to my friend Tony and also to receive calls from him.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: unbeldi on December 29, 2014, 07:21:55 PM
I was hoping that Santa would drop off a new camera for you.   ;D :D
It would help us too!
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: unbeldi on December 29, 2014, 07:28:40 PM
Here are a couple of pictures of my Trans 2012A.  It is a transformer that puts out 6 to 8 volts AC.  It is used for lighting on phones like the early Princess model.  I bought it hoping that it had an output of 6 to 8 volts DC so it could be used for non-phone applications!

These transformers really don't have much use other than for their intended purpose, because their impedance is pretty high at 50%.  This means that without a load connected, their voltage output is actually around 14V, twice than that of the rated in-circuit operating voltage.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: unbeldi on December 29, 2014, 07:34:17 PM
Why do they always use these odd looking washers on dials?  Yes, I know space is at a premium and they can't use split lock washers.  Even so, wouldn't a simple star lock washer be just as effective?

Do you mean the black segmented 'washer' that is on top of the finger wheel under the hex nut?  I suppose, that because of its slight dome-profile, it exerts an even pressure onto the finger wheel all around the nut and minimizes any wobble of the finger wheel.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: HarrySmith on December 29, 2014, 08:41:36 PM
I was hoping that Santa would drop off a new camera for you.   ;D :D
It would help us too!
Seconded!
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on December 30, 2014, 07:07:05 PM
I did sell a couple of things on eBay this year.  None of my picture ended up in a thread about the worst eBay photos ever.  At least not in this forum anyway!
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on January 03, 2015, 03:02:08 PM
I now have a red WE2500 and it is now on my kitchen counter.  It has an extremely long handset cord on in.  I think it must be 10 feet long.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on January 03, 2015, 03:14:00 PM
Among my phone stuff, I have a 4-prong jack.  I haven't hooked it up yet.  I may use it with some other  things to create a combination adapter and extension cord.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on January 04, 2015, 04:40:54 PM
If any pictures in this thread  look blurry, it may not be my camera.  It could be me.  I may need to switch to decaf!
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: Doug Rose on January 04, 2015, 06:29:32 PM
Try using a flash and keep the caffeine. I try to take the majority of my pictures outside in natural light, even in the middle of winter. I have an old camera that takes AA batteries and still get a true picture. Try using an app to help with you crop and doctor you pictures. I use an app from Olympus that is great and I haven't had an Olympus camera in years...Doug
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: HarrySmith on January 04, 2015, 08:28:26 PM
The first picture of the Red 2500, the one that is head on, is in pretty good focus but can be framed better. The other picture from the side is way out of focus.
That is some super long cord, looks better than 10 feet to me!
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: AE_Collector on January 05, 2015, 11:32:12 AM
It might be as simple as making a real effort not to move the camera while clicking the button. I got so that I was always looking for something to sit the camera on while I pushed the button to avoid the slight movement of the camera causing the pictures to be blurred.

The head on picture of the red 2500 on the kitchen counter is pretty good compared to the shot from the side.

Terry
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on January 05, 2015, 06:13:05 PM
I've ordered a tripod for my camera.  That may help me take better pictures.  I think these digital cameras may be more sensitive to movement than the ones that used actual film.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on January 11, 2015, 07:37:42 PM
I'll be getting a black WE2500 soon.  I recently bought it on eBay.  Here's the link:

www.ebay.com/itm/141530596632 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/141530596632)

As you can tell, it is a bit dusty.  I plan to clean it up.  Hopefully it will look much better then.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on January 15, 2015, 06:13:38 PM
I now have my black WE2500.  I have two pictures of it before I wiped the dust off and two of it after I wiped the dust off.  The box in the background is the box that it came in.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on January 22, 2015, 01:23:38 PM
I'll be getting a 1954 Western Electric 500 soon. I bought it on eBay.  Here is the link:

www.ebay.com/itm/331450131295 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/331450131295)
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: Doug Rose on January 22, 2015, 05:56:04 PM
Andre...if you are purchasing telephones on $$ amount only ....you will be disappointed. Sooner or later. Cheap is cheap for a reason. This '54 has a refurbed handset. See the hole in the middle of the receiver. It is a tell tale give away for a newer handset. Happened all the time, especially with 500 sets. Some times you will find a steal, but usually you have to pay to get. JMHO....Doug
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on January 22, 2015, 06:49:12 PM
I have no idea when they started putting the hole in the center of the receiver.  It could be worse.  The dial could have a clear plastic wheel.  It doesn't and I know that doesn't mean it is original.  If the dial is a 1962 dial, then I will put it on my dial-less 500C which was made in 1962.  I will then make the 1954 into a dial-less 500C.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: unbeldi on January 22, 2015, 07:01:49 PM
I have no idea when they started putting the hole in the center of the receiver.  It could be worse.  The dial could have a clear plastic wheel.  It doesn't and I know that doesn't mean it is original.  If the dial is a 1962 dial, then I will put it on my dial-less 500C which was made in 1962.  I will then make the 1954 into a dial-less 500C.

Transmitter and receiver caps gained that center hole when WECo switched injection molding techniques with the arrival of new types of plastic, ABS, in 1959.
The handset on that set is of a much later date, and likely all the plastics have been replaced during refurbishing. The base looks in good shape and the dial is probably original.

But, pardon me, when I say this: I think you need to develop a better collecting strategy. Switching parts around from phone to phone isn't one, especially when you haven't researched what goes together period-wise.
Dial blanks in 1954 were different than in the 1960s. I am glad you got a cheap phone, if nothing better you have some spare parts. The housing can be renovated, the paint does come off.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on January 24, 2015, 07:02:48 PM
I found a G1 handset on eBay today.  I can't tell what kind of cap is on the receiver because the pictures are a bit dark, but the description does give me hope.  Here's the link:

www.ebay.com/itm/281570742887 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/281570742887)

If I position things just right, the picture will lighten up.  I didn't see a hole in the center, so I put a few bids on it.  It may be what I need after all!
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: Mr. Bones on January 24, 2015, 07:37:11 PM
Looks like you're good, Andre... good luck!

Best regards!
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on January 28, 2015, 05:46:58 PM
Thanks.  I should be getting it within a few days now.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on January 29, 2015, 07:43:29 PM
I finally got it earlier today.  The handset has arrived and I recently put it on the phone.  Now it has the correct handset.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on February 04, 2015, 01:00:46 PM
Here are some pictures of my sea foam green Kellogg ITT 500 phone with a black handset cord.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: HarrySmith on February 04, 2015, 04:04:33 PM
Nice phone. Is it the same color on the inside? Interesting.
Excellent pictures also!
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on February 04, 2015, 07:01:02 PM
Yes, it is the same color on the inside.  I noticed that it doesn't have a hole in the center of the receiver cap.  With Western Electric 500 sets that means it was made prior to 1959.   I don't know what that means as far as a Kellogg ITT 500 is concerned.  I understand they were a bit behind Western Electric, but I'm not sure by how much.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: HarrySmith on February 04, 2015, 08:32:52 PM
I think Kellogg was pretty good at dating their stuff. Anything on the bottom or inside as far as date codes go?
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on February 05, 2015, 06:16:24 PM
There is a 1-65 on the back of the dial and a 1966 date on the network.  There is also a 1965 date on the transmitter element and a 1962 date on the receiver element.  No dates on the plastic and no dates on the cord restraints.  No date on the bottom either.  The network and switch hook are held in place with nuts and machine screws rather than rivets.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on February 07, 2015, 07:03:44 PM
Here is a picture of the inside of the  case.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: TelePlay on February 07, 2015, 10:35:20 PM
Here is a picture of the inside of the  case.

That is one heck of a great picture. Glad that tripod worked out for you. Keep these great, clear shots coming! 
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on February 08, 2015, 12:51:39 PM
People are always commenting on what a neat color my sea foam green Kellogg ITT 500 is.  I take it as a compliment.  One of the reasons why I bought it is because I, in fact, thought it was a neat color.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on March 16, 2015, 06:06:02 PM
HERE ARE A FEW PICTURES OF THE LEICH PHONE I PURCHASED ON EBAY FOR $13.99 PLUS $17 SHIPPING:
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on April 10, 2015, 07:13:30 PM
I recently purchased an SC 1543 on eBay for$14.99 plus $12.65 shipping.  The phone has a chip missing from one corner.  It had no line cord when I bought it.  The handset cord was intact, but the wires inside the phone had been cut.  The cords on it now I happened to have on hand.  They are from a Western Electric 500 phone as near as I can determine.  The dial sticks and may need cleaning and oiling.  The ringer does not work and it may be a frequency ringer because it has a big clapper.  Here is the link:

www.ebay.com/itm/131466425640 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/131466425640)
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: HarrySmith on April 11, 2015, 06:06:15 PM
Nice! That style is very cool!
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on July 25, 2015, 06:38:37 PM
Here are some pictures of a WE 2500 with ITT plastics that I got in a trade.  It may have been a modular phone at one time, but now it is a hardwired phone.

In case any of you are wondering, I traded my light blue Touchtone phone for this one.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on September 06, 2015, 10:43:49 AM
I will be getting a Stromberg Carlson Slenderet phone soon.  It is an orange touchtone from 1980.  I bought it on eBay for $2.75 plus $15 shipping.  I hope to post my own pictures of it as soon as I get it.  In the meantime, here's the link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/301728267032 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/301728267032)
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on September 13, 2015, 03:35:44 PM
Here are the pictures of my Stromberg Carlson Slenderet phone:
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: HarrySmith on September 13, 2015, 05:36:25 PM
Nice! Looks great!
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on May 04, 2019, 05:32:22 PM
Here are a couple of pictures of my North Electric telephone.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on June 23, 2019, 04:09:56 PM
Here is a screenshot of a 591 that I bought on eBay:
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on June 23, 2019, 04:16:59 PM
I've added a few things since I got it.  Here it is now:
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on July 01, 2019, 08:16:28 PM
I recently changed the ringer.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on September 14, 2019, 03:30:42 PM
I changed the ringer again.  I also made some changes in the outward appearance of it.
Title: Re: andre_janew's phone collection
Post by: andre_janew on January 21, 2020, 07:46:01 PM
I recently purchased a WE 202 on eBay for $25 plus $22 for shipping.